2210/2305 Rear PTO broke.

netwayne · Jun 14, 2010

Wow, these rear PTO failures and expense to repair sound awful. Thanks for posting. I know I will now take extra care with use of the rear PTO. I only use a PHD and after my initial fencing project, I rarely use it.

As one poster said, I bet the tillers are rough on the PTO's.

Let us know how Deere responds. 6 months out of warranty for a known design flaw sounds pretty crappy if they don't work with you on the repair.

Fixedon66 · Aug 8, 2010

I just had this happen this past week. I had a 48" King Kutter brush hog attached and hit a bent over, buried metal T fence post. (this is new land for me and I'm still finding these kinds of things) When I tried to continue mowing the PTO just rattled and kept throwing off the PTO shaft. Thats when I noticed the PTO attaching "stub" was not pointing out straight. I had a shear bolt in the brush hog but it didn't break; it went about 1/4 through. Off to JD dealer. Yesterday they called with a $5k - $5.5k estimate.

I bought the 2305 used with 160 hours. This is all on me but I can't believe two things about these units:

1. How can they be so brittle. These are Cat 1 PTO tractors. The engine didn't even stall on this hit. I don't think I've ever stalled using the brush hog.

2. How can the parts for this be so expensive? This repair will cost over half the value of this tractor and yet this is a very small part of the tractor itself. I question that JD is gouging users with high prices on parts that break often and are required to get the unit back in operation. Good grief! Sell a complete transmission for $2000 and be done with it. Labor would be less to install that! At least you would save money on that. Ah.... guaranteed labor volume for the dealers. Sorry, I should have thought of that earlier.

Sorry to be so cynical but this really has me ticked off. Will this happen EVERY summer?!!!

Thinking of selling the 2305 as salvage and moving to something else. Sad...

ddivinia · Aug 8, 2010

Fixedon66 said:
I just had this happen this past week. I had a 48" King Kutter brush hog attached and hit a bent over, buried metal T fence post. (this is new land for me and I'm still finding these kinds of things) When I tried to continue mowing the PTO just rattled and kept throwing off the PTO shaft. Thats when I noticed the PTO attaching "stub" was not pointing out straight. I had a shear bolt in the brush hog but it didn't break; it went about 1/4 through. Off to JD dealer. Yesterday they called with a $5k - $5.5k estimate.

I bought the 2305 used with 160 hours. This is all on me but I can't believe two things about these units:

1. How can they be so brittle. These are Cat 1 PTO tractors. The engine didn't even stall on this hit. I don't think I've ever stalled using the brush hog.

2. How can the parts for this be so expensive? This repair will cost over half the value of this tractor and yet this is a very small part of the tractor itself. I question that JD is gouging users with high prices on parts that break often and are required to get the unit back in operation. Good grief! Sell a complete transmission for $2000 and be done with it. Labor would be less to install that! At least you would save money on that. Ah.... guaranteed labor volume for the dealers. Sorry, I should have thought of that earlier.

Sorry to be so cynical but this really has me ticked off. Will this happen EVERY summer?!!!

Thinking of selling the 2305 as salvage and moving to something else. Sad...

That really sucks.

I don't miss my 2210

Might check to see if your insurance might cover it.

D.

megotatractor · Aug 9, 2010

Scary. I use a rear PTO rototiller often. I hit stones all the time. Maybe I've been lucky, right away when new I hit some steel bars which wrapped around the tiller and killed the motor. It was shortly after I bought my 2210 that I discovered the rear housing was aluminum and I was shocked. Does 2320 have the same problem?

Deadman · Aug 9, 2010

Theres a reason they make quality Implements with slip clutches! :shocked:

Its not cool, but stuff just happens...... Get yourself a slip clutch on that mower, and the next thing you hit won't damage the tractor. I just can't imagine mowing with no slip clutch, as I know my land, and I still find stuff to hit! :laughing:

Fixedon66 · Aug 9, 2010

Deadman said:
Its not cool, but stuff just happens...... Get yourself a slip clutch on that mower, and the next thing you hit ....:

Okay. Point taken. I'm new to tractor life so I'm paying the tuition but this is a steep price.

Anyway, is there a way to install a slip clutch between tractor and brush hog? All I know of are those built in the implement.

kennyd · Aug 9, 2010

Fixedon66 said:
Okay. Point taken. I'm new to tractor life so I'm paying the tuition but this is a steep price.

Anyway, is there a way to install a slip clutch between tractor and brush hog? All I know of are those built in the implement.

TSC sells then, as well as many other like Agri-Supply.
PTO Slip Clutch, 1-3/8 in. 6 in. Spline Shaft - 0271211 | Tractor Supply Company

Just Google "pto slip clutch"

ddivinia · Aug 9, 2010

A slip clutch might help but there is no doubt the PTO is lightweight in that series.

A must check on used units.

D.

davkir · Aug 9, 2010

I think there is a 2 year warranty on the 2305, any chance yours qualifies?

Fixedon66 · Aug 10, 2010

kennyd said:
TSC sells then, as well as many other like Agri-Supply.

Great! I have a TSC in our town. I'll check it out. Thanks!

davkir said:
I think there is a 2 year warranty on the 2305, any chance yours qualifies?

I've never figured out how old my tractor is. Would the warranty transfer to a second owner? If so and if it is under 2 years old I'd be looking at $0.

The good news is that I checked with my farm insurance (thanks to the suggestion of my wife and a poster here; in that order

and this is covered under a rider for farm equipment damage. I am thrilled with my agent at this point for including this coverage.

I'm still getting the slip clutch before doing any more PTO work. I'll let you all know how the claim and clutch work out.