[TonyC]

Well I finally can say something I've never had the nerve to say on this board...I am an expert at this![img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] My driveway is 800 ft and steep. I did the research and followed the experts advice. I started with a foot of used broken brick. Lots of big crevices for other stone to pack into. Then a thick layer of what we call crush and run..driveway stone with fines in it put down damp from the quarry. All of this was packed with a big dozer. Also very important (as has been said before in this thread) drainage. A large ditch running down the upper side with 18" pipe at several points to drain it to the down side. This lasted a good while and was nice but every year and a half or so it started to break down. Scrape all I want, the only thing that would get it back into shape was a dozer and several tandem loads of stone. Most of the time I just cussed the ruts and the dust. I suffered it for 15 years. Now $13,000 later it is black topped. I'm afraid a lot of the posts you've read are correct...there's no keeping it in good shape. My biggest mistake was wasting thousands on stone and dozers over the years. If at all possible, don't make that mistake..bite the bullet and get it done right. It's been two years for me and I still smile every time I drive up it![img]/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif[/img]