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IXLR8 · 05-12-2008, 08:25 PM

BTL- I bought it used, I have only had it a few months. So far it has done all I have asked of it. The loaded rear tires do add enough extra weight so I need to be a little mindful of how dry the lawn is before I go across it. The Kioti is a heavy machine, the loaded tires just make it that much heavier. If you are looking for a machine to mow with, or spend lots of time on your lawn... it might be too heavy for that, a Kubota or JD would be better. I didn't like the ergonomics of the Kubota, otherwise I probably would have gone with the Kubota. I did get the Kioti cheaper than I would have gotten the Kubota, but Kubota has a very good dealer 10 miles away. My nearest dealer is 55 miles away and is not rumored to be the best. So far I have not needed a dealer so no issue. There are also lots of great online dealers ready to help, one even on Sunday's.

The Bobcat is a Kioti machine, same assembly line, different color, different loader. I am guessing Bobcat is using a different loader to not associate themselves with the issue that Kioti had with cracking loaders on the smaller machines, CK20-35, until they redesigned the loaders. The only item that needs to be addressed on my machine is the backhoe was used heavily and one of the hoses has some wear on it from rubbing on the boom where it goes inside the boom and I should replace it in the next few months. The Kioti does have some features as standard that are options on other machines, which helps to add value to the machine. The JD machines do have features that make adding/removing implements easier.. but at a large cost. I still check out other machines and I have not found one that I like better, or a better value than the Kioti. It fits ME well, it might not fit YOU. You do need to go try out as many different tractors as you can, even ones you have no interest in. You might find some feature that you really like, or dislike. That is where I found what machines fit me best and the ones that just didn't work for me ergonomically. You need to find which one you are comfortable with as YOU will be the one to spend lots of time in the seat.
HTH

05-12-2008, 08:25 PM	#35 (permalink)
IXLR8 Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mid-Coast Maine Posts: 473	Re: Bobcat CT120 vs Deere 2305 BTL- I bought it used, I have only had it a few months. So far it has done all I have asked of it. The loaded rear tires do add enough extra weight so I need to be a little mindful of how dry the lawn is before I go across it. The Kioti is a heavy machine, the loaded tires just make it that much heavier. If you are looking for a machine to mow with, or spend lots of time on your lawn... it might be too heavy for that, a Kubota or JD would be better. I didn't like the ergonomics of the Kubota, otherwise I probably would have gone with the Kubota. I did get the Kioti cheaper than I would have gotten the Kubota, but Kubota has a very good dealer 10 miles away. My nearest dealer is 55 miles away and is not rumored to be the best. So far I have not needed a dealer so no issue. There are also lots of great online dealers ready to help, one even on Sunday's. The Bobcat is a Kioti machine, same assembly line, different color, different loader. I am guessing Bobcat is using a different loader to not associate themselves with the issue that Kioti had with cracking loaders on the smaller machines, CK20-35, until they redesigned the loaders. The only item that needs to be addressed on my machine is the backhoe was used heavily and one of the hoses has some wear on it from rubbing on the boom where it goes inside the boom and I should replace it in the next few months. The Kioti does have some features as standard that are options on other machines, which helps to add value to the machine. The JD machines do have features that make adding/removing implements easier.. but at a large cost. I still check out other machines and I have not found one that I like better, or a better value than the Kioti. It fits ME well, it might not fit YOU. You do need to go try out as many different tractors as you can, even ones you have no interest in. You might find some feature that you really like, or dislike. That is where I found what machines fit me best and the ones that just didn't work for me ergonomically. You need to find which one you are comfortable with as YOU will be the one to spend lots of time in the seat. HTH __________________ Jim - Husky W4814- 48" walk behind lawn mower. For my 1.7 acres of lawn. - '06 Kioti CK30 HST - KL130 loader w/reinforcing bracket, SS QA, LK3054 QA bucket, engine coolant heater, dual rear remotes, KB2375 Backhoe w/thumb, 7ft 6 way rear blade, chains front/rear, loaded rear tires, Kioti Canopy. For eveything else.