Pat I was reading your thread and maybe I dont understand something I know you will explain it so that I can understand it though.
My understanding of perpetual motion is when you start a process that is self sustaining without adding any type of fuel.
Technically if you use a alternator to produce current and then use the current to produce hydrogen from water that would deplete your supply of water and you would have to replace the water so technically the water would be the fuel and would have to be replaced so that would not be perpetual motion as I understand it. Could you explain it to me please and If my misunderstanding of perpetual motion is incorrect I would not be suprised.