[Hoosier Hay Man]

So yes, outsourcing is here..... in a world of blame based failure justification. It just puts the folks to blame further away, and even makes that part easier.

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Speaking of out sourcing, we were at one of our industrial trade shows this year when we approached by two gentalmen form India seeking subpar steel. They would need it by the container load. We stated we only deal in steel that is certified to the mill and a ASTM standard. They stated that what they could use subpar because what they needed it for would not require such high standards. They wouldn't mention what they needed it for though. Maybe it was for garden tools? Maybe they can't get cheap steel form China? but that personal conversation reinforced to me that India and China have know intention of playing by the rules. The end customer wasn't on these gents minds, making a cheap priced product was.
It is also scary if they were successful at finding a source and what they manufactured from it.