FarmTrac Troubles

[SESS]

A parade in Alapharetta huh? Well Tex**** needs to know what these tractors looks like so what better way then to take them up there to show them! They have been hounding us about paying for them and they probably don't even know what they look like! A nice ride on one would show just how good the tractors are!

How can only 4 complaints be issued for the "less than zero" people?????? or the thousands of customers that are without warranty today??? If there was $2.9 million scammed out of people, there have got to be HUNDREDS of people out of money! Why have there not be HUNDREDS of complaints filed by these people who lost thousands of dollars and have no warranty???? In order for the "right" people (NC attorney general, etc) to know that there has been wrong doing-YOU HAVE TO FILE A COMPLAINT. It takes 5 minutes. Wouldn't that be the best 5 minutes spent in months??? Don't know what to say-how about starting with the money that was stolen from you? How about the warranty you do not have anymore? I think that is a pretty good start to a conversation! If you called me and told me that you lost $4-5,000 I would listen!

[case1570]

4 complaints? I don't believe it. Hear are some numbers;
NC Attorney's office 1-919-856-4530, Laura Taylor Trip
US Justice Dept. 1-202-514-2000
US Attorney's office 1-202-353-1555
Ole Blue why is it that the FTC and our US Representatives, after getting these complaints, are not going forward. The FTC says it is on file, my US Rep. may have lost it or something, according to their office. The justice center is the only one that is trying to help.
Case

Call today!!!!!

[MessickFarmEqu]

Originally Posted by case1570

Question for Textron; How many dealers, that you helped put into this situation, can talk to other dealers and manufacturers and relay how you treated them?
How many dealers will never work with you again?
How many manufacturers will not pick Textron to work with?

I surly do not know all the details of this situation, but I fail to see how Textron has done anything that any lender would not be doing. Yes, they could have thrown flags so dealers knew that FarmTrac was headed down the tubes, however its not their job to tell them how to run their business. Textron did not put FarmTrac in this situation, its seems pretty clear that this is where management lead the company.

[tommybr]

Originally Posted by MessickFarmEqu

I surly do not know all the details of this situation, but I fail to see how Textron has done anything that any lender would not be doing. Yes, they could have thrown flags so dealers knew that FarmTrac was headed down the tubes, however its not their job to tell them how to run their business. Textron did not put FarmTrac in this situation, its seems pretty clear that this is where management lead the company.

Your opening sentence is entirely correct..........you obviously "do not know all the details of this situation.........."

[blueliner]

Originally Posted by MessickFarmEqu

I surly do not know all the details of this situation, but I fail to see how Textron has done anything that any lender would not be doing. Yes, they could have thrown flags so dealers knew that FarmTrac was headed down the tubes, however its not their job to tell them how to run their business. Textron did not put FarmTrac in this situation, its seems pretty clear that this is where management lead the company.

Messick's F.E. -- your take is a high-handed positon ... for one who has thinly researched the topic. A kind suggestion for future posts: be careful and better prepared. The web-based pummelling you save may be your own!

A deeper, more reasoned look at overlapping entity's timelines, court documents and testimonials reveal the retailers were up against two major conspirating factions.

And even if the Evil Empire Financial Corp's actions align with the normative value (and FYI, they don't; even General Electric acct execs tipped off dealers when the NewHolland/Case situation occurred)... it doesn't validate the act as a moral or an ethical practice.

Translated: if you're a greasy thug whose quivvering hand holds a glock, or a Gucci unifibre-clad, Blackberry toting, euphamism-using "division vice president" it matters little. The malicious acts of either can render the same result -- robbery from folks who've earned a legitimate living for decades. The steps prior are merely a different modality, but they both have the same larcenous heart and mind.

MFE, I warn you. You're not well-received here. You best tread smartly and lightly.

--b

[MessickFarmEqu]

Originally Posted by blueliner

MFE, I warn you. You're not well-received here. You best tread smartly and lightly.
--b

I've been reading this thread since the begining because its interesting to me. Care to fill me (and everyone else) in on the details? They don't seen to be present in the 120 pages of posts here.

[Tractech]

If you have been following this from the begining like you say than you lack comprehension (IMHO). For the business you are in reading between the lines is something you should have acquired and get good at piecing things together. Read slower if needed to understand. Seriously though you say you have read all post and can't seem to find details as to what the situation is??? Have you followed the articles in the papers that were linked?? These dealers have been generous with information to aid the public in honest business practices.

[Tim C.]

"I've been reading this thread since the begining because its interesting to me. Care to fill me (and everyone else) in on the details? They don't seen to be present in the 120 pages of posts here."

I suggest everyone not reply to this "baiting" with actual information. For all we know he is trolling for information to be used against dealers later on down the road. If not, just replying could lead to something being said that is damaging later.

It would not surprise me to see every page of this in a courtroom some day. Maybe Textron will call him as a character witness. Who knows. Best leave him in the dark. He can find out later. He has no need to know now. He is not a customer or dealer.

Public site.

Tim

[redneckford]

you'll leave messick alone!!!! if you think Textron is tough you should try to deal with some of the other financial empires in the floor planning business he has to deal with a few of them!!! He is just trying to stay on their good side so that he does not have to go get a real job it is hot mowing grass this time of year especially with a 21" push mower. Messick got any on sale??? Bet they gave a 2% discount on their interest rate for that "positive" comment!!! You'll KNOW about those positive comments????? Don't you

[redneckford]

Redneckford will you take the stand? Yes Sir!!! Does Tim C understand that TBN is a PUBLIC FORUM???? I think so sir but I am not sure he keeps saying it over and over like he can't make hisself believe it!!!!