Down/up control on pulled implements

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hudr

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This is basically an opinion poll. And I expect a lot of rolled eyes on this subject due the inane and ****-rententive aspects of it.
I had a discussion the other day about hooking up hydraulically controlled implements. Let's see if I can get the gist across and get y'all's thoughts:
I was raised hooking up pulled implements (like discs, shredders, etc.) so that the Hydraulic lever worked like the 3pt lever (pull back to raise the implement, push forward to lower the implement). Talked to someone the other day who looked at it differently, he hooks up such equipment like so: pull back to raise the wheels, push forward to lower the wheels.
What do y'all do. Raise/lower implement or raise/lower wheels or just hook it up live w/ what you get (50/50 chance of it going either way, right?)
Yes, this is somewhat silly, but if you're already bored enough to be surfing the 'net....
 
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I've had remote cylinders on all sorts of equipment. End gates on manure spreaders, disc's, planter, mowers, ect. What I've always done is to orient the hoses so "working position" is forward, and transport/raised/shut-off/closed position is back. So more or less, the same as the 3-point lever. I hated swapping cylinders, so every implement with a need for a cylinder had its own. I have one quick coupler (on the tractor) painted red and a red wire tie on the corresponding hose end.
 
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That is a really good question. My remotes ,factory installed are foward to extend. Drives me nuts because when I push the valve handle foward the implement goes down I visualize the lever moving the same way as the rod on the cylinder so forward rod retracts . I am probably going to learn lever down imolement down. But then the 3pt foward is down and thats ok.
On my plow angle on the front push the handle forward and the plow on that side moves away from my hand. or now I have a diverter valve so left moves the plow to the left and right is right. I have a thumb on my bucket with the diverter valve That one I set up so curl up is thumb down so to close it up I hold the joy stick left and alternate bucket and thumb and it closes up. I also have a blower on the back with a cylinder for chute rotate. That is new so I have not had a chance to get a load of snow in my face yet.
 
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6sunset6 said:
That is a really good question. My remotes ,factory installed are foward to extend. Drives me nuts because when I push the valve handle foward the implement goes down I visualize the lever moving the same way as the rod on the cylinder so forward rod retracts . I am probably going to learn lever down imolement down. But then the 3pt foward is down and thats ok.

I am not quite sure I follow you but you do realize that if you reverse the cylinder hose hookup then the the control will be reversed.
 
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On my Dad's 1967 JD3020 the 3PTH lever is on the left side of the dash, opposite of the gearshift which was on the right. The 3PTH lever is pushed forward to raise the 3PT. The remote cylinder control lever is next to the 3PT lever and you push it forward to raise an implement, pull it back to lower. Same operation as the 3PTH. On our Ford tractors the 3PTH lever was on the right side next to the seat. The lever was pulled back to raise and pushed forward to lower. The remote cylinder lever was near the 3PTH lever and it was set up the same way. Pull to raise, push to lower. The Fords are opposite of the JD but both feel right. I would say that the most important thing is that all of the hydraulic controls on a certain tractor operate in the same direction. That makes it easy to remember which way to move the levers. No reason to make it more complicated than necessary.
 
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In my experience, the time to have this right is in a panic situation: mower hits a big rock, dog's favorite toy, baler plunger jams, pick up wagon misses a lift, plow hits a curb, bucket lifts too much and the tractor pitches forward, etc. When this happens, instinct and learned behavior acts quickly. Its pull to lift and push to drop for all my stuff. My pto engagement levers came that way, too. Clutch in to stop the drive. Throttle back to drop rpm.
 
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Yeah I know about swapping hoses. I like pull to lift and push to drop. I can remember that I think. You guys have to remeber I never drove a real tractor until 12 years a go. Thats already when I forgot more than I ever knew.
 
 
 
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