thank you for the reply's. I purchased a KK middlebuster and bought a few different tips thinking I could also use as a sub soiler ( TS and farm and fleet didn't have the combo or the subsoiler). I put it on the tractor and lowered lift arms, the middle buster went into ground very slowly as i pulled forward to about 4-6 inches. I thought my 3 pt. would have some down pressure on attatchments. I know I had at least 6 inches of travel left on lift arm. my question is, do I need weight on top of attatchment to force it into the ground. I then put on the single shank and again it just stopped when it hit the ground. I also adjusted the top link so the point wasperpendicular to the ground, it helped a little but not much.