Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

[leonz]

Good evening,


I would call Ken Sweet or contact him via a PM

here on the forum as he is forum sponsor in good standing

and ask him about his flail mower lines; I recall that he

carries The Italian SICMA flail mowers?, and Diamond flail mowers.

Ken also ships nationwide directly from his warehouse in Kentucky.

 

[IslandTractor]

Tough call. There is the HP issue and also weight. No doubt the 1600 is ideal for 22PTO HP and that the 1900 is a stretch. Still there might be ways of managing. First cut with a bush hog is one solution. You could also see how removing a balanced number of blades from the end of the rotor. You'd still need to pull the mower through the uncut grass but wouldn't use HP actually cutting as much. And, another option, you can also just put the tractor in low and just go slowly with the full set of knives.

I would not be concerned about hurting your tractor, just that it might be slow going. You would be at high risk of wanting to upgrade the tractor too.

 

[beppington]

Tough call. There is the HP issue and also weight. No doubt the 1600 is ideal for 22PTO HP and that the 1900 is a stretch. Still there might be ways of managing. First cut with a bush hog is one solution. You could also see how removing a balanced number of blades from the end of the rotor. You'd still need to pull the mower through the uncut grass but wouldn't use HP actually cutting as much. And, another option, you can also just put the tractor in low and just go slowly with the full set of knives.

I would not be concerned about hurting your tractor, just that it might be slow going. You would be at high risk of wanting to upgrade the tractor too.

As for weight, we run the TM1900 flail mower with the roller riding on the ground, so it's carrying a lot of the weight (~600 lbs total IIRC). Do you not do that?

 

[IslandTractor]

As for weight, we run the TM1900 flail mower with the roller riding on the ground, so it's carrying a lot of the weight (~600 lbs total IIRC). Do you not do that?

I understand the weight is on the ground but it is still a fair amount heavier than most implements pulled by a 25hp tractor. Wider too. My concern was just that the physical size/weight was an issue.

Again, I'm not arguing not to try the TM1900 but just to be aware that it might be a bit awkward.

 

[KYThrill]

I understand the weight is on the ground but it is still a fair amount heavier than most implements pulled by a 25hp tractor. Wider too. My concern was just that the physical size/weight was an issue.

Again, I'm not arguing not to try the TM1900 but just to be aware that it might be a bit awkward.

I don't know that weight would be an issue. I currently haul around a 540 pound tiller all the time that I use as ballast for the FEL (plus fluid in the tires). 650 pounds doesn't seem that much more and the 3pt easily has the lift capacity (over 1500 pounds).

Depending on the offset, I guess it could get a little awkward to pull around (and garage). I know my tractors rear track is about 64". How much is the TM1900 offset? Can it be centered? I guess if it we offset 2 feet, I would have 3-3.5 feet of mower sticking off the side.

I know the TM1600 is a much better fit, I just hate the wait.

 

[beppington]

I don't know that weight would be an issue. I currently haul around a 540 pound tiller all the time that I use as ballast for the FEL (plus fluid in the tires). 650 pounds doesn't seem that much more and the 3pt easily has the lift capacity (over 1500 pounds).

Depending on the offset, I guess it could get a little awkward to pull around (and garage). I know my tractors rear track is about 64". How much is the TM1900 offset? Can it be centered? I guess if it we offset 2 feet, I would have 3-3.5 feet of mower sticking off the side.

I know the TM1600 is a much better fit, I just hate the wait.

The TM1900 can be offset about 18" or "almost" centered, which means it sits to the right a little more than the left, maybe 4 inches IIRC.

 

[whirly]

Hi, I'm new here by have read "almost" all of the posts in this thread ...Whew... and haven't found my answer yet.

I have just one question before I pull the lever on a CARONI TM1900BSC.

Can this mower be used with or adapted for a Cat II 3pt?

I have asked the folks at AgiSupply but they just reply with "the literature doesn't indicate what Catagory 3pt".

 

[TDVT]

I have just one question before I pull the lever on a CARONI TM1900BSC.

Can this mower be used with or adapted for a Cat II 3pt?

I don't know why not.

It uses the standard open-ended implement mounting pins. I know I've seen some pins that were a Cat2 pin with a Cat1 threaded section, I even think Agri-supply sells some. Those would bolt right on.

You might have to mod the top link as the Caroni yoke is the right width for a Cat1 link (unless Cat1 & Cat2 are the same width, I don't know).

The standard spacing for Cat1 lift arms is 26", the standard for Cat2 is 32" but of course they have quite a bit of swing.

Also the way the Caroni is made, there are two pin positions for changing the offset (about 7"). I measured mine & if you used the two outer pin positions your pin spacing would be around 33".

Of course I've not tried it since I don't have a Cat2 tractor handy.

Hope that helps.

TD

 

[leonz]

Why are you worried about a category 2 hitch
when all you have to do is change the pin sizes
or reposition the lower link arms if needed?

I believe every new mounted implement
sold now is category 2 so no worries
there anyway.

The dual lower mounts make it easy to attach
to the lower links and you can unscrew the
top link if needed.

The issue is more of having the extendable/moveable/
unthreaded lengths and correct eye bearing bushings
width for the top link spacing or the slot.



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[TDVT]

Also the way the Caroni is made, there are two pin positions for changing the offset (about 7"). I measured mine & if you used the two outer pin positions your pin spacing would be around 33".


TD

I realized after I posted that, that your top link wouldn't be centered if you used the two outer mounting points.