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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Two different questions......anyone used a flail/mulcher on a commercial-type front-mount mower such as kubota F-2880, JD 1145, Iseki SF series, NH G6000 series??

    Anyone used a flail head on a PowerTrac 1845 or similar??

    Yes, I have seen the 1460 with flail on YouTube, so I know it does work......just trying to get more actual user feedback, satisfaction, etc.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Wouldn't you know the Europeans would have solved this one too...
    "Perfect" Mow Load Combination MLC-150.wmv - YouTube
    "Perfect" Mow-Load Combination - YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor View Post
    ...... Bottom line though is that there is, to my knowledge, no such thing as a grass catcher for a flail mower and flails don't have either side or rear "discharge".
    ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kananaskis View Post
    Wouldn't you know the Europeans would have solved this one too...
    "Perfect" Mow Load Combination MLC-150.wmv - YouTube
    "Perfect" Mow-Load Combination - YouTube
    Interesting. Not sure I would like to haul a dumpster behind me but I imagine there are situations where that works well. I love the dumping gymnastics.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Welcome to "Flail Nation"... because once you go FLAIL... you never go back. First, decide what you want the area to be mowed to look like when you are done (a lawn or a field); because most flail mowers take more than one type of cutter. Use an upside down "T" for a smooth lawn-like look or an upside down "Y" for a coarser cut (the "Y" blades cut on both sides; so can be turned around, allowing you to put off the sharpening job 'til winter). One more thing... for a 4-5 acre field, I would suggest that you buy a good used Ford 907 Flail Mower; 6-7 feet in width (7 foot has the offset design) rather than buying a new mower. Prices for a 907 should range from $500 for one in serviceable condition to $1,200 for one in mint condition.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    Two different questions......anyone used a flail/mulcher on a commercial-type front-mount mower such as kubota F-2880, JD 1145, Iseki SF series, NH G6000 series??

    Anyone used a flail head on a PowerTrac 1845 or similar??

    Yes, I have seen the 1460 with flail on YouTube, so I know it does work......just trying to get more actual user feedback, satisfaction, etc.

    Rip
    Quote Originally Posted by Kananaskis View Post
    Wouldn't you know the Europeans would have solved this one too...
    "Perfect" Mow Load Combination MLC-150.wmv - YouTube
    "Perfect" Mow-Load Combination - YouTube
    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor View Post
    Interesting. Not sure I would like to haul a dumpster behind me but I imagine there are situations where that works well. I love the dumping gymnastics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Durhamfarms View Post
    Welcome to "Flail Nation"... because once you go FLAIL... you never go back. First, decide what you want the area to be mowed to look like when you are done (a lawn or a field); because most flail mowers take more than one type of cutter. Use an upside down "T" for a smooth lawn-like look or an upside down "Y" for a coarser cut (the "Y" blades cut on both sides; so can be turned around, allowing you to put off the sharpening job 'til winter). One more thing... for a 4-5 acre field, I would suggest that you buy a good used Ford 907 Flail Mower; 6-7 feet in width (7 foot has the offset design) rather than buying a new mower. Prices for a 907 should range from $500 for one in serviceable condition to $1,200 for one in mint condition.






    Hello Rip,


    I owned a 36 inch Mathews lawn genie pick up mower, and now own a 48 inch lawn genie.
    (both are motorised)

    I can attest to thier ability to for the mowing job.
    The rear roller is also your lawn striper at no extra charge.

    A flail mower will also do less damage to an established lawn as
    it does not tear the grass blades like a rotary mower does.



    I know/knew of at least 2 new unused 5 footers with
    collection baskets that were for sale here in New York State.

    They both are three point hitch mounted and have a hydraulic lift
    for dumping the collection basket.

    Sadly they are no longer made but the parts are easily found locally.
    I purchased new wheels and bearings from Palmetto specialty tire in the Carolinas.

    As Durhamfarms has said decide what kind of lawn you want first and then go from there.
    There are many good used flail mowers available.

    As far as front mounts go the Caroni's can be set up for tractor front mount but it must be
    done at the factory in Italy-unless you have a three point hitch unit mounted on
    the front of the tractor then a basic flail mower can be mounted on the front-strictly
    depending on the implements weight and the lifts weight rating.

    As the Kubota F2880 is a 2 wheeler you will have to purchase a Trimax brand front
    mounted flail mower for it unless they(kubota) have begun to offer one for the F2880.


    You will have better luck with a rear mounted unit from one of the several manufacturers of them.

    Many times brand new flailmowers are offered for sale on tractor house/auction time and many
    other auction sites as well.

    If we can be of any further help all you need to do is ask us.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Sorry for not replying sooner.... first of all, I gave up on looking to put a flail on my PowerTrac (various reasons).....but was thinking more on a flail head for a kubota F-Series, but could not find used and way too expensive new. In any case I was not looking for a grass collection system for anything......guess there was some confusion. I am now running a 2009 Kubota F-2880 with heavy-duty 60" 3-blade rotary as I got the whole kit reasonable......works fine as I was able to chew through a lot of thick tall (like 3 to 4 ft) overgrown stuff, but back to reasonable pasture/rough lawn now, so no big deal......will still keep eyes open for reasonable used flail head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip View Post
    Sorry for not replying sooner.... first of all, I gave up on looking to put a flail on my PowerTrac (various reasons).....but was thinking more on a flail head for a kubota F-Series, but could not find used and way too expensive new. In any case I was not looking for a grass collection system for anything......guess there was some confusion. I am running a 2009 Kubota F-2880 with heavy-duty 60" 3-blade rotary as I got the whole kit reasonable......works fine as I was able to chew through a lot of thick tall (like 3 to 4 ft) overgrown stuff, but back to reasonable pasture/rough lawn now, so no big deal......will still keep eyes open for reasonable used flail head.


    Greetings,

    I saw your response with regard to my post.

    Perhaps the better option is to simply hire
    it done and mow several times no matter the moisture
    content to keep it down until you have a rough turf/pasture
    and be done with it.


    I do know that Husquavarna has a flailmower for thier
    riding mowers that is a front mount.

    Unfortunately you are limited to the Trimax or
    one of the Japanese made flail mowers for your
    F-2880.

    You will not be able to find them used unless
    you purchase a power unit AND the mower
    from a golf course auction site or a municipal
    auction if you look nation wide.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Leonz, I tried unsuccessfully to hire the tall overgrown stuff cut down, but once I did get the F-2880 I ended up doing it myself.....slowly. but did get it done.......so long as I keep up with it I'll be fine. It was overgrown grass....like a hay field, not heavy weeds or saplings. I did put on a set of 3" wheel spacers and fluid-filled the main tires to maximize the stability & traction from what was already pretty good. Still want to add about 100lbs of rear counterweight.

    If I had a flail I could help out a few neighbors push out their lawns and do the road-side more often then the council does it twice a year. but as it is, I can live without a flail until and unless a suitable one comes along.

    There are several Italian flails made to fit these F-Series machines.....just quite $$$ at least in OZ. Cheers, Rip
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    We have finally joined Flail Nation, thanks to all of the input on this board!
    The mower is a Muratori MT22-170. I have a PDF of the parts guide if anyone needs one.
    The knives are quite heavy, at 9/32 or 8mm thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kananaskis View Post
    We have finally joined Flail Nation, thanks to all of the input on this board!
    The mower is a Muratori MT22-170. I have a PDF of the parts guide if anyone needs one.
    The knives are quite heavy, at 9/32 or 8mm thick.

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    Greetings and Salutations Kananaskis,


    I want to welcome you as the newest member of the Flail Mower Nation.



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