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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor
    I think that is probably the TM1900 flail that I have. Cut is 1.9 meters which is either 73 or 75 inches. Your quoted price makes sense if it includes shipping. It is a great deal but not too good to be true. There are at least half a dozen TBN members with this mower and so far only good things to say (other than the inevitable and messy but otherwise harmless bubbling over of oil from the breather cap).
    That bubbling oil is only a small nuisance when every thing else is considered. And it can be dealt with very easily. Just let the gear housing find it own level and then clean it off. Since your only going to change the oil at service intervals it won't be a big deal.

    As far is "would I do it again?", If I knew then what I know now, I could have saved a lot of money and bought the Caroni flail mower the first time. I am buying a set of replacemnet knives this summer just to have on hand for that point in the future when they need to be cahnged but that is quit a ways off.

    You will like the way the fields look compared to the windrowing of a Bush Hog type mower.
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    Super Star Member IslandTractor's Avatar
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMtns
    That bubbling oil is only a small nuisance ....

    As far is "would I do it again?", If I knew then what I know now, I could have saved a lot of money and bought the Caroni flail mower the first time. ....

    You will like the way the fields look compared to the windrowing of a Bush Hog type mower.
    I agree completely on all counts. I did not mean to overemphasize the oil dribbling phenomenon but it is about the only "defect" in the TM1900 worth mentioning.

    If someone stole mine I'd order another the next day.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    What sized saplings can a flail cut without damage?
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    Super Star Member IslandTractor's Avatar
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by swampvol
    What sized saplings can a flail cut without damage?
    You'd have to be specific about what flail mower you are considering. There are heavy duty flails that will happily cut up cinder blocks along the highway.

    For a medium duty flail like the Caroni TM1900, I have had no issue at all with 2 inch brush. Haven't tried 3 inch material as I usually get those with the grapple. Here are photos of the remains of a couple of bushes that had about 2 inch stems. The original bushes looked like the untouched bush just behind the stubble remains.
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor
    I have a Caroni TM1900 flail that I really like. I had previously used both bush hogs and rotary finish mowers. The flail cuts pretty close to the finish mower in quality but is more like the bush hog in its ability to cut rough stuff. I like the short projection off the rear of the tractor and the quiet (especially compared to the bush hog). I don't really have any negatives to report although it is clear that when it does come time to change knives it will take longer and be more costly than with either a rotary finish or bush hog.
    I am planning to get a flail. My problem is determining how heavy duty a one I need and how the cut quality of grass trades off between HD and lighter duty knives, or hammers in the case of extreme HD. Im considering Rears, Gearmore, and now Caroni. I want one that will mulch 2" wood routinely with no problem, and be able to handle larger without damage at creeper speed. Yet I still want a decent field cut on grass. With your experience with the Caroni, will the TM1900/30837AgSupply do this? Is it gear or belt final drive? I assume the TL series Caroni are light duty? Odd that they cost almost the same for smaller units. Anyone with experience on them??

    I spoke to a Rears distributor in MA, who recommended the SPF series with big knives rather than hammers. These weigh in at around 900# with the optional 1/4" housing on the 5 foot mower. The knives counter rotate wrt tractor wheels. Price is double the Caroni. That is ok if Im getting a much more capable and durable machine. I need some basis of comparision based on collective experience on TBN. Please help me not jump the wrong way.
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    Super Star Member IslandTractor's Avatar
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    I cannot give you comparative experience as I have only used the Caroni TM1900. It is what I'd call a medium duty unit and by that I mean that it is not designed to be used by highway shoulder maintenance or in the way you'd use a heavy duty bush hog. I feel comfortable using it anywhere I'd use my BushHog Squealer and it obviously cuts much finer than that, roughly comparable to my Rhino finish mower.

    It has three belts instead of two and heavier knives than the TL series from Caroni. It weighs about 600lbs I believe which again is indicative of its medium duty status as the heavy duty flails can weigh 1000lbs.

    You might want to PM someone like FarmswithJunk for his thoughts as he has used the heavier flails and other brands.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Can you use a Flail mower as a finishing mower? If so how close are the results to a finishing mower??

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    Super Star Member IslandTractor's Avatar
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheelfan
    Can you use a Flail mower as a finishing mower? If so how close are the results to a finishing mower??
    Absolutely. There are different types of flail mowers and some are made to cut more roughly than finish but there are also flails that would exactly duplicate a rotary finish mower cut.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    I have a 6' Mott flail mower that the local school system had until the ran the gearbox out of oil. I have a 1-1 right hand gear box on it but it needs a 1-3 ratio. In short lawn type grass it cut terrific and chopped the clippings to tiny bits. Tall weeds will smoke the belt drive.

    One of my projects is to find a proper ratio gear box or add a geared system to get it to the right rpm. I like the way it cuts and I think my 4110 JD would have enough power to operate it in the big open spaces. I also have a ton of cutters with it which seem to cut rather than tear the blades of grass.

    I didn't think parts were available for this machine as it was traded and sold for scrap price.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    OK, another question, how close or high can you adjust a flail to finish mow??

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