Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,061  
I first posted on the “Buying Advice” forum since I am looking for both a tractor and flail. Most of the responses there dealt with the tractor aspect, with only generalities about flail mowers. So I want to come here for more specific recommendations on flail mowers. Apologies to anyone who is rereading my background.

I am a complete newbie, never even owned a riding mower. My wife and I bought a 9 acre spread with house and pole barn 20 years ago as a retirement home. We rented out the house and paid someone to bush-hog the half of the fields twice a year for $500 a pop. Two other fields were being hayed by a neighbor, and another neighbor fenced in another pasture for their cow. Sometimes I would cut the sections of lawn with my push mower (4+ hours), sometimes hire someone. But now the cow is gone, the first neighbor is talking about moving further south, and we are in the house. I figure it is time for me to do the mowing.

The lawn is by no means pristine, so I'm hoping that I can get by doing most of it with the flail instead of using a regular mower, and don't want to spend the close-to-$2K for a belly mower. The fields are pretty clear, both rolling and flat, nowhere that I would term steep. Most of the fields have some trees, but not many. We've always had a bunch of honey locust saplings sprouting up which we then have to deal with by hand, so I figure more frequent mowing will help stop that. I'm not going to making new trails, pretty much maintaining the fields, so I shouldn't need anything heavy duty.

The grass is pretty high right now – was last bush-hogged 2 months ago.
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My wife was the one who first heard about flail mowers and they really appeal to us. I've been doing some research, found this forum, and have learned a lot. At this point I am thinking about either a Kubota B2601 or B2650 (PTO = 19.5 for either) with a FEL. Now I am leaning toward the smaller, less expensive tractor. For flails, I had been thinking about a WoodMaxx, but they are backed up on delivery. Some people in the forum like the Caroni flail a lot, plus it is in stock. The question is what width to go for, whether the 4’ version or the 5’ one (can anyone tell me why the smaller one is more expensive at Agri Supply?!?). Also given my PTO, I’d be going for the TL version. Leonz said to another poster to go with the 4’.

Given my application, I'm still unsure of which flail blades would be best. WoodMaxx says to use the duckfoot blades for clearing saplings (1" diameter or less), and the Y-blades for grasses, but I thought I read here that the duckfoot blades give a nice appearance to lawns. Does it make sense to spring for both set of knifes, based on the application?

Any comments, advice, and/or suggestions would all be appreciated. Now I need to convince my wife that spending $20K+- on the pair is money well spent.
If you can lift it, you can spin it. You might have to go slow if you are short on power, but you'll get there. Just make sure the flail is light enough for your 3pt. It's best to stay in the ballpark on powe. But personnsly I like a wide mower. Going slow is a much smoother ride & easier on me & the machine.

My old Ford 917 with side slicers did ok enough on brush. If you are only going to mow them once then stay up on things so they dont get bad again you are probably fine with side slicers. Side slicers give a great cut quality & finish.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,062  
... I ordered it on Monday, April 23rd and it arrived on Friday May the 8th. That is four full business weeks which falls into what I was told when I ordered it , but it just seems a tad long, especially when they said it takes 7-10 days just to process the order.

I work in technology for a finance company. We have to do all sorts of calculations based on weekdays, working days w/ holidays included, days that the markets are open, etc..., etc..., and I'm trying to figure out how 15 straight calendar days (incl. weekends) can in any way be 4 'business' weeks. Seems to me that 7 business days processing time would've been Wed., May 2nd. Assuming it shipped that day, that was 4 business days 'in transit' if you received it the following Tuesday (2 weeks and a day after ordering)?

Maybe it just seemed like 4 weeks? ;D
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,063  
I work in technology for a finance company. We have to do all sorts of calculations based on weekdays, working days w/ holidays included, days that the markets are open, etc..., etc..., and I'm trying to figure out how 15 straight calendar days (incl. weekends) can in any way be 4 'business' weeks. Seems to me that 7 business days processing time would've been Wed., May 2nd. Assuming it shipped that day, that was 4 business days 'in transit' if you received it the following Tuesday (2 weeks and a day after ordering)?

No it seemed like six months. :laughing:

I'm sorry , that was a typo. It arrived Friday May the 18th. Good catch.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,064  
I work in technology for a finance company. We have to do all sorts of calculations based on weekdays, working days w/ holidays included, days that the markets are open, etc..., etc..., and I'm trying to figure out how 15 straight calendar days (incl. weekends) can in any way be 4 'business' weeks. Seems to me that 7 business days processing time would've been Wed., May 2nd. Assuming it shipped that day, that was 4 business days 'in transit' if you received it the following Tuesday (2 weeks and a day after ordering)?

No it seemed like six months. :laughing:

I'm sorry , that was a typo. It arrived Friday May the 18th. Good catch.

I know what 6 months feels like. Ordered mine in November. It arrived last Wednesday. 5/16/2018.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,065  
Today I went back to the dealer and put a deposit on a Kubota B2650, then came home and ordered a 5 Caroni from Agri Supply. Tractor is supposed to arrive on Tuesday, and the Caroni is scheduled to ship the same day, so I should see it either Wednesday or Thursday. The Caroni could have come earlier, but I need the tractor to move it down the driveway. (WoodMaxx is quoting mid-Sept for delivery of their 5')

So I need both gear oil and grease gun + grease before I can use the Caroni. Anyone have suggestions on brands? Some grease guns have a rigid tube, others a flexible one. I assume flexible is preferred. Is it better to get synthetic grease?
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,066  
Dealer should sort out the gear oil. I prefer the flexible grease guns, swear by lock-n-lube attachment, makes the whole process a lot less messy.

You'll enjoy the 5' Caroni, have the same one on our Ford and works great.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,067  
So I need both gear oil and grease gun + grease before I can use the Caroni. Anyone have suggestions on brands? Some grease guns have a rigid tube, others a flexible one. I assume flexible is preferred. Is it better to get synthetic grease?

Gear oil you can get a Walmart. Wait until you get manual to buy it. Unless someone can tell what is recommended.
Check out pistol grip grease gun. I have a Lincoln and the cheaper model. Both work well.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,068  
If you're already invested in a cordless tool system (Dewalt, Milwaukee, etc...), see if they make a grease gun. Most of them get pretty good reviews. I recently grabbed the Dewalt 18v (tool only) for $139 off Amazon, $60 less than the 20v model. Get the Lock n Lube, too.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,069  
Lock 'n Lube is worth it- it's a real improvement over the standard tip that's either too loose or needs to be loosened by unscrewing it before it'll come off the nipple. Power grease gun for home use? Not needed. A good manual Lincoln is fine. I have both lever action and pistol grip type guns and prefer the pistol grip with hose for most things as it's more versatile. Synthetic grease and gear oil is not needed for tractors and equipment.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #5,070  
I also have the LockNLube coupler:

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My favorite grease gun is a 10,000 psi lever with the the rigid tube replaced by a hose:

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I recently added a two foot long extension to the hose. :thumbsup:


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