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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Have you tried swapping the brackets , left to right ? I think the bent ends would sit better swapped around .

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by TracksNIowa View Post
    Slightly off topic, but I am a newbie trying to learn... is there a flail mower I can run with my case 1840 standard flow machine without over heating it? I have been searching the net and finding that most flails are built for 100plus hp high flow machines. Any help or guidance would be great!
    Thanks in advance,
    Beau Nelson
    Beau welcome to the forum. The mowers being discussed here are PTO driven rather than hydraulically driven. You might want to ask in the construction section the site. There are guys there using skid steers and may know of a mower for you.

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    Mike,
    Thanks for the reply. By the way I really enjoyed your attachment builds and joined TBN to follow the rollover box build, because I was considering building one at the time - very nice job. It looks like I'll probably assemble the flail as shown in my pic #1 as you suggested for the offset. Thanks again!

    Iron Horse,
    I did try swapping the brackets left to right and it didn't help the issue I am having with the prebent angles. The distributor said that it didn't matter as well. I ended up going with them as they are because if I switch them around it places the top link pin farther back on the attachment from the lower link pins.

    Thanks again for all of the help guys!
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by Aguanga View Post
    Thanks again Davitk! I have 3 pics showing the three possible ways to assemble the upper triangular brackets to hold the top link... The first one is how I originally assembled, but it didn't seem right because of how much it was offset from the input shaft on the gear box (the same way Davitk assembled). So I started communications with Keith at Betst who has been helpful so far, but wanted more pictures. He recommended the setup in the second picture, but this places the height of the top link pin above the bottom link pins well beyond the standard Cat 1 spacing and the angles on the prebent brackets don't line up (pics 3 & 4). The third setup (5th pic) shows the way it should be setup to give a dimension closest to the standard Cat 1 spacing vertically between the lower pins and the top link pin, but again the prebent brackets aren't close to lining up (pics 6 & 7). I'll wait to see what Keith at Betst says...
    Mine's set just like picture 1.
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Here's my new to me flail. It's a Ford 917H and I got it on Craigslist for $550. Can you say tail wagging the dog?

    I'm gonna modify the lower attachment points on the mower by lowering them. With my shorter-than-an-R4 bar/turf tires I can only raise this thing 1" off the ground. Cuts great though, has the coarse cut blades and only 27 pairs of them so it won't be expensive when I have to replace all of them. It's a 62" cut, by the way.

    Not sure what it weighs, but the loader had a heck of a time lifting it out of the back of the truck. If I were to guess, I would probably say in the range of 650 pounds.
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    2009 Kubota BX2660, R4 Tires
    LA243 FEL, 54" Fine Cut Mower, 42" Cammond Box Blade
    62" FORD 917H Flail Mower
    Current hour meter reading: 26

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutorbell View Post
    Here's my new to me flail. It's a Ford 917H and I got it on Craigslist for $550. Can you say tail wagging the dog?

    , I would probably say in the range of 650 pounds.
    That is a lot of mower for that tractor. Looks like it does a good job though.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by TracksNIowa View Post
    Slightly off topic, but I am a newbie trying to learn... is there a flail mower I can run with my case 1840 standard flow machine without over heating it? I have been searching the net and finding that most flails are built for 100plus hp high flow machines. Any help or guidance would be great!
    Thanks in advance,
    Beau Nelson
    I believe you should be able to run the Power-Trac flail with your machine. It is powered by a 15 GPM hyd motor. I have made an adapter to hook it up to a Case 1445C. 72 in cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor View Post
    On a related topic brought up earlier in this thread....the tendency of the Caroni flail gearbox to puke oil from the gearbox due to the gears throwing it directly up on the vent cap....I have finally found the correct fitting to put an extension piece on the gearbox. Size is 16mm x1.5 mm threads to match the dipstick. Source was British Metrics. Address is on one of the photos below. Works perfectly. With the dipstick in the extension the very bottom of the dipstick shows oil if you had it filled to the top fill line without the extension. No oil spillage at all once the extender is put in. Cost was about $10 plus shipping as I recall.
    I couldn't find it on the website so I sent them your photo. They responded with this link: Item # 300908 on British Metrics, Inc.. No price is listed, but I requested a quote which they gave at $9.66. I ordered it, of course. Thanks for sharing the info.
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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Search other threads.
    I think the $19xx.xx price is an all included ("free" ?) shipping to anywhere in the contiguous.... mumble, mumble, etc. price.
    As I recall, other TBN'ers have been able to get the in store price of $159x.xx plus ACTUAL shipping, which can be a lot less if you aren't at the farthest reaches of the aforementioned contiguou.... etc.
    Also, if you have pallet forks (and confidence) you can forgo the lift gate charge as long as you KNOW when the delivery guy will be there and you can be home (sick day ?).
    I think this requires that you tell them it is a biz address and/or has a loading dock or you have unloading capability - e.g. pallet forks.

    FWIW, etc.
    I ordered a 73" TM1900 from AgriSupply today for $1897.95 delivered (Virginia). Of course, I called back 15 minutes later and added the hydrolic shift -- that cost me another $805 plus some additional shipping. I'll be pulling it with a 3430HSTC. Can't wait to try it out.
    Grand L 3430 HSTC with FEL, 6' Land Pride rotary cutter, 7' BEFCO sickle bar mower, 7' rear blade, and 7' County Line rake.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by tutorbell View Post
    Here's my new to me flail. It's a Ford 917H and I got it on Craigslist for $550. Can you say tail wagging the dog?
    It may be easier to buy a quick hitch with the lower mounts to adapt it . I would suggest you also fill in the ROPS with some mesh to catch missiles from the front of the mower .

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