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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Horse
    Without upsetting the boat here , there a few limitations a flail mower has . As i make my living with these things i know what they are .......A flail will not mow in reverse , not only are you traveling in the same direction as the flails but also the rear roller holds the material down while the cutters miss it . .
    I appreciate your points and know you have more experience with flails but find my experience is different. I cut both going forwards and in reverse. I have backed into bushes and left nothing but chips behind. I also sometimes back into tall grass or brush and seem to get a good cut (I would acknowledge that when I back into something I usually then pull forward to get out so am cutting twice but I can see that I've already cut the material). I also find that my flail cuts similarly to my bush hog with regard to lifting it up and backing it into a bush. It does begin to cut but to finish the cut I need to lower the flail onto the ground just like with a bush hog.

    I completely understand your basic point that a flail is designed to most efficiently cut when on it's roller and when moving forwards which is how one would normally cut grass/pasture. Do you never use your flail to back into brush?

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    I was only telling of my experiences and was not questioning your opinions . Yes i do back into Brush like Lantana and Wild tobbaco etc but my flails will not cut it as the roller holds it down and even though my mowers weigh 700kg's the brush can keep them aloft . I tried one with the roller removed and self made side skids with some success but as mine are 2.5metres wide it would scalp the ground if i hit a high spot and so i have refitted the roller . Its not a huge problem , you just need to make smaller rearward advances before going forward again , if you dont the rough ends of the brush get up into the belly of the tractor and pull off wires and sometimes pierce soft hoses .

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    I'll look more closely the next time I back into brush to see how much of the cut is done while backing and how much when pulling forward again. Maybe I'll even remember to bring my camera and grab a few shots.

    Another possible explanation: you are in Oz. Everything is upside down/backwards there right?

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg
    Congrats;
    I mentioned the "shipping included" pricing of $19xx.xx for the 1900 to anywhere in the lower contiguous wherever. I think someone else got one by calling one of their retail stores and getting ACTUAL shipping charges.
    Did you have to pay extra for a tailgate lift delivery ?
    To a residential or business address ?
    Enquiring minds, etc.
    My pricing included lift gate delivery to a residence.

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by davitk
    I just got off the phone with Agri Supply, they have a 73" Coroni flail with 53 blades (hammers?), item #30837 delivered by truck with a lift gate (to Wisconsin) priced at 1,947.95. Price seems too good to be true considering my local dealer offers a Landpride 72" RCR1872 rotary mower at 1,595.00 + tax. Same dealer has a NH 60" flail for 2,600.00 or a NH 71" flail for 4,100.00.
    I just priced out a Deere 72" flail for 4,025.00 and a Rhino 74" for about 5,000.00 (list is at 5,600.00). That Coroni is looking better all the time!

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor
    I'll look more closely the next time I back into brush to see how much of the cut is done while backing and how much when pulling forward again. Maybe I'll even remember to bring my camera and grab a few shots.

    Another possible explanation: you are in Oz. Everything is upside down/backwards there right?
    That must be why i keep pouring my glass of milk up my nose , i always wondered .

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    I have a few questions for those who own the Coroni TM1900 that Agri Supply couldn't answer and I was unable to locate on the Coroni website. Forgive me if these questions have already been answered:

    1) What is the outside to outside width dimension, they can tell me cutting width is 73", but nothing else. It matters to me because of a narrow barn door.

    2) What is the cutting height range, achieved by adjusting the rear roller?

    3) What (how much) is the offset, and is the non-offset position exactly centered on the mower?

    4) AS website lists the skids as optional, seems to me they would be essential. Do they come with the mower or are they purchased in addition to the mower?



    Thanks for the help!

    Just a FYI for those considering the TM1900, Agri Supply only has a few mowers in stock, one in each branch store with a new shipment expected from Italy mid-April which will replenish stock in the warehouse. My guess is the mowers in the stores have been sitting in the weather (I garage all my stuff, new should be new IMHO); I plan to wait. Of course, price will likely go up

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    How does a flail like hitting hidden rocks??
    2007 TC40DA, Supersteer, ANBO Grapple Rake with WR Long Joystick rocker control, Landpride 72" Box Scraper, 84" Rake, 72" Disc Harrow,72" Spring Tine Harrow, 72" Woods Rotary Cutter, Pallet Forks, 60 gallon Cropcare 3-pt sprayer, 72" 3-pt chain drag,Vicon 3-pt spreader

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Quote Originally Posted by flINTLOCK
    How does a flail like hitting hidden rocks??
    Fine, as long as they stay hidden (-:

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    Default Re: Let's talk flail mowers

    Caroni and Agri Supply should love this thread. I for one will probably buy one in a month or so. It sounds like others are in the same frame of mind. The buyer at Agri Supply will probably scratch his head in a few months and wonder why he can't keep Caroni flails in stock. TBN has probably put more than a few $'s in Markham Welding owners pocket. The owner of Caroni is probably going to reap some benefits as well.
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