HOME  DISCUSSIONS  PHOTOS  REVIEWS  CLASSIFIEDS  DEALERS  STORE
 

Go Back   TractorByNet.com > General Forums > Attachments
Show Recent Threads:
24 Hours
Since My Last Visit

Reply
 
Trackback Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-15-2008, 10:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
Rickstir
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hard by the Elk Fork of the Salt River, Missouri
Posts: 27
Default What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

Kind of a newby here.

I have a Yanmar 5 ft. tiller and no tractor. My Jubilee won't work because the ground speed is too fast. A friend comes over with his tractor to do the tilling and he uses the tiller on his place. He keeps saying we need a slip clutch but I don't know much more about them than they help protect the PTO shaft.

Can someone give a definition and maybe a picture? Appreciate any and all comments.
Rickstir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2008, 10:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
IslandTractor
Elite Member
 
IslandTractor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Prudence Island, RI
Posts: 3,681
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

You can see a photo of an aftermarket slip clutch on the AgriSupply catalog website. They cost about $70. They are basically simple devices comprised of adapter shafts to connect between your PTO shaft and the implement and two spring compressed clutch plates. The idea is, as the name implies, that a clutch, in this case two plates compressed by a series of springs on the casing, transmits power to the implement. When there is an obstruction, the clutch slips and prevents the shock load from being transmitted to the tractor or absorbed completely by the implement.

A key point in using a slip clutch is to make sure it is adjusted properly to begin with (ie it does in fact slip and you don't have the springs set so tightly that it won't) and also that you periodically loosen the springs to allow the clutch to slip so that the two plates don'g rust together.
IslandTractor is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2008, 01:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
WayneB
Platinum Member
 
WayneB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Dunbarton, NH
Posts: 864
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

picture is worth many words

WayneB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2008, 01:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
greg_g
Elite Member
 
greg_g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Western Kentucky
Posts: 2,508
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickstir
Appreciate any and all comments.
They're common on medium to heavy duty rotary cutters too. Basically it's two friction discs sandwiched between three pressure plates. Most often they're on the implement end of the PTO driveshaft. One end connects to the implements transmission input shaft. The other end (eventually) connects up the tractors PTO output shaft.

Up to 8 bolts hold the sandwich together lengthwise, using compression springs at the threaded end. Under normal usage, the spring tension keeps the sandwich rotating at the same speed as the PTO shaft. But if you hit something significant with the rotating implement, the friction plate (or plates) slip against the pressure plates. That permits the tractor PTO output shaft to continue to run at normal speed without being damaged by whever slowed down the tiller/mower rotation.

//greg//
__________________
USN (Ret)
KM454, TS354C, JM254 (traded), YM240 (sold)
greg_g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2008, 03:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
schmism
Veteran Member
 
schmism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: 62014 IL (outside STL MO)
Posts: 2,222
Send a message via AIM to schmism
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

Whats not clear in the pic is the input side drives the clutch pack, The output side (shown) drives the spring plates.

the only thing that connects the 2 is the friction.
__________________
Steve - TC33D 4x4 FEL, dual rear remotes with toys
schmism is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2008, 03:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
waytech
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 19
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

Slip clutch can be mounted on tractor end of setup

To confuse you even more...
Slip Clutch mounted on Overrun clutch
waytech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2008, 04:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
zzvyb6
Platinum Member
 
zzvyb6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: michigan
Posts: 533
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

I have your very same Yanmar 5' tiller (I think). To answer the question, the slip clutch is recommended in case your tiller discovers a rock, a cable, a chain or breaks the chain case and siezes up instantly. The slip clutch frictino will be overcome and the pto will still be able to turn, but under heavy load and some engine strain. You will know something happened, but the jolt will probably not break the gears, or twist the shafts, or let you continue with motion but no tilling. Because its a slip clutch instead of a shear pin, the powertrain will still be solid, so, if you run over a rock and the clutch slips, you could pass by the rock and the tiller would continue. All you would have is a skip in the garden. With a shear pin, its end of session.
__________________
There is no "I" in team, but there is a "Me" if you want to jumble it up a bit...
zzvyb6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2008, 09:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
N80
Elite Member
 
N80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 3,606
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

Here's an exploded view of one:



A-Cap Screw (6 used)
B-Yoke
C-Friction Disk (2 used)
D-Hub
E-Clutch Plate
F-Belleville Spring
G-Lock Nut (6 used)
H-Locking Collar (LX6 only)

Tractor end to the left, implement gear box to the right.
__________________
George
South Carolina
N80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2008, 08:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
tony123
Platinum Member
 
tony123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Travelers Rest, SC
Posts: 550
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

I'm pretty inexperienced, and have a question about my over run clutch.

I have the type that goes on with a shear pin through the PTO shaft.

what-exactly-slip-clutch-how-img_2625-small-.jpg.JPG
Views:	49
Size:	52.3 KB
ID:	102740

what-exactly-slip-clutch-how-img_2626-small-.jpg.JPG
Views:	43
Size:	49.5 KB
ID:	102741

I bought it 6-8 months ago and am just now using it. I lost the original pin that held it to the pto. So, I took a bolt and cut it to length. Slipped the bolt in place and put the set screws back in to hold it in place.

It doesn't come off the PTO, but it doesn't seem to be allowing overrun. When using the bush hog, if I put the tractor in neutral I have to wait for the blades to spin down before I can put in gear again. I'm thinking that the length of the bolt I cut is not right. Any ideas?

Thanks for any insight.
tony123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2008, 10:54 AM   #10 (permalink)
greg_g
Elite Member
 
greg_g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Western Kentucky
Posts: 2,508
Default Re: What exactly is a slip clutch and how does it work?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tony123
it doesn't seem to be allowing overrun. When using the bush hog, if I put the tractor in neutral I have to wait for the blades to spin down before I can put in gear again.
The bolt is not an operational part, it's a simple fastener. I guess you don't realize that an ORC only goes to work when the implement PTO shaft is caused to spin faster than the tractor PTO output shaft - like when using a rotary cutter on a downhill slope, or when the throttle suddnely goes from full to idle.

Putting the gearshift into neutral means nothing to the ORC, since the PTO drive shaft turns independent of the transmission drive shaft. All it does is buffer the extra RPMs when the spinning blades happen to make the PTO shaft turn faster than the tractors output shaft (like the downhill example).

//greg//
__________________
USN (Ret)
KM454, TS354C, JM254 (traded), YM240 (sold)
greg_g is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:46 AM.


HOME DISCUSSIONS PHOTOS REVIEWS CLASSIFIEDS DEALERS STORE
About TractorByNet.com | Terms of Service | Advertise | © 2008 TractorByNet.com
 
Page generated in 0.18521 seconds with 11 queries