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    Veteran Member Rara Avis's Avatar
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    Gold Member RedDirt's Avatar
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    Default Re: Rear End Loader?

    I built this rear bucket for my Wards Garden tractor. Reason for going to rear mount was mostly expense and simplicity. Front loader would have been more work and steel for an awkward frame mounting system. And I would have had to add secondary hydraulic system. I figured a front loader would have cost $1300 - $1500 to build. I have about $450 in the rear loader.

    The rear blade is raised by one cylinder powered by the HST. I put quick couplers on the existing spool valve that enabled me to switch from the little existing implement raise/lower cylinder to the rear bucket. The rear loader frame was attached to a modified sleeve hitch bar (2 point attachment to rear axle) and a homemade adjustable top link. The bucket is powered up and down hydraulically and manually dumped via the go-kart disc brake which is activated with truck emergency brake cable connected to an over-center lever.

    -r-bucket-dn-jpg -r-bucket-up-jpg -r-bucket-dump-jpg -r-bucket-mount-jpg -r-bucket-counterweight-jpg

    Overall I was pleased with the outcome and operation but none-the-less the unit has its limitations.

    Without powered curl, normal loader operation was modified and a bit cumbersome. I'd have to push/scrape into the pile, go forward, push the bucket flat on the ground, continue to go forward and rock the bucket back (curled) to place the load to the rear of the bucket so I could clear the front portion of the bucket for more material.

    Capacity was an issue. The rear loader worked great for turning compost piles, moving leaves and other light to moderate loads. I could pick up a full bucket of soil but the top link was attached to the back of the HST and heavy loads would rotate the HST in its mounts.

    Neck strain was the other issue. It takes a lot of looking over the shoulder to operate and this becomes very tiresome after a couple of hours.

    The latter was the final straw. The operation shortcoming was awkward but accetable after some practice and the top link attachment could have been modified, but the constant head tweak is the rear loaders biggest downfall.

    In the end I'm glad I built it. I solved all the problems by finally breaking down and buying a BX23 loader/backhoe. Now I have two tractors!

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    Two tractors are better than one!

    Kudos to your building efforts and congrats on the new tractor. Really appreciate you sharing the pics.
    Paul

    NH TC40DA - Salsco Chipper, LandPride 72" Finish Mower, Jacobson B40 Blower, Pronovost 72" Rear Snowblower, York Rake, Quick Tach Pallet Forks, 94" New Holland 918 Flail Mower, Construction Attachments 4 in 1

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    Default Re: Rear End Loader?

    Quote Originally Posted by RayCo
    I came across this page last night and found it, I don't know, interesting I guess. Does such an item exist? Is it useful? I can't really see this succeeding in reality.

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    There have been a few threads on this which might provide some additional info...don't know if they will come through OK
    http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/a...ht=3pth+loader

    http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/b...int-hitch.html

    http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/a...nt-loader.html

    While they are not very common and for the most part an FEL is nicer, they can be really nice to use and can lift a lot more than a standard FEL...unless you happen to have a NH bidirectional

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    This is an old conversation but still want to post some pictures. Because of high prices of hydraulics these rear-end loaders were widely used in Finland in the 60's, and 70's. We had several commercial makers here and rear end loaders were used even in digging. The older models had cylinder only for lifting the joint and scoop had only locking mechanism. When the lock was released the scoop was emptied, the balance of scoop swang the empty scoop back in locked position. Just put word 'takakuormaaja' or 'takakuormain' in google picture search and you get more hits. Here is some:

    "Farmi" http://www.elisanet.fi/sami80.koivis...28Farmi%29.JPG

    "Farmi" again attached to Fordson Major. Text in picture says "Lifting capacity 700kg's and lifting height 280 cm. Farmi takakuormain -65

    "Normet" http://www.uurastajan.com/mahtikuormain1.jpg

    "Renki" Findit.fi - support


    "Peto" (beast) Eka Peto ? MasinistiWiki

    Found a video: 'Peto' in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j6V85jnJLE This model has 2000kg / 3m lifting capacity.
    Last edited by flyingfinn; 05-23-2010 at 09:26 AM.

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    Man... I haven't seen one of those in years. And by one... I mean one. That's all I've ever seen. It was on a dealers lot in Arkansas.

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    That was quite interesting. Thank you flyingfinn.
    Ray
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