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    Default Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    A local dealer quoted me ~$2,400.00 for a Long OBG2 64" grapple with the electric - hyd. switch labor included. Does this sound about right?

    Also I am a little concerned of the weight of the 64" @ 490Lbs. About what does the standard duty bucket weigh on the LA854 loader? I do not want to loose a lot of lifting ability.. I suggested the 48" single jaw grapple which only weighs 357# but he claims the folks at Long suggest the 64"

    Thanks for any help. Chuck.
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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    I bought a OBG2 56" just a month or so ago. I paid 1900+ including shipping.
    You can call WR Long and they will tell you how much it will cost. I thought the 3rd function switch setup was close to $500. That being the case it does sound pretty close to the bone.

    About the weight...
    I have a LA852-2 loader and I can really feel the difference between the grapple and the bucket. The grapple weighs a couple hundred lbs more and it sticks out further.

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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    Why the OBG line instead of the RBG? Just curious? RBG will save some weight.

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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    Quote Originally Posted by wedge40
    Why the OBG line instead of the RBG? Just curious? RBG will save some weight.

    Wedge

    From my research here seems the open bottom model would be more effective in moving down trees, brush, lumber from demo jobs etc.. Seems the RBG is more for ground raking and stump removal?

    Thanks for the input... Chuck.
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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    If the price includes installation of an electric over hydraulic valve, which costs about $700 plus, then the price is not too bad.

    I would personally go for the 48 inch single arm grapple. In all my time on TBN talking about grapples I have yet to get a convincing answer from anyone who buys a larger grapple as to what advantage they have found. I use a 48" Millonzi on a loader similar to yours (mine is a Kioti KL401 with 2700lb lift capacity at pivot pins). I routinely lift the rear of the tractor while using the grapple and it just doesn't care. You are also less likely to rist torquing your FEL with a narrower grapple as you have less risk of an asymmetric load. Much better to save the weight and lift capacity than to gain a little width IMO. What would you do with the extra width anyway? Most of us use grapples for brush and logs and small trees. No advantage for the larger grapples with those target loads. If you are picking up lots of construction debris then a wider grapple makes sense.

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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor
    If the price includes installation of an electric over hydraulic valve, which costs about $700 plus, then the price is not too bad.

    I would personally go for the 48 inch single arm grapple. In all my time on TBN talking about grapples I have yet to get a convincing answer from anyone who buys a larger grapple as to what advantage they have found. I use a 48" Millonzi on a loader similar to yours (mine is a Kioti KL401 with 2700lb lift capacity at pivot pins). I routinely lift the rear of the tractor while using the grapple and it just doesn't care. You are also less likely to rist torquing your FEL with a narrower grapple as you have less risk of an asymmetric load. Much better to save the weight and lift capacity than to gain a little width IMO. What would you do with the extra width anyway? Most of us use grapples for brush and logs and small trees. No advantage for the larger grapples with those target loads. If you are picking up lots of construction debris then a wider grapple makes sense.
    I'm glad I got a grapple with two arms. Try handling 800 lb. large square hay bales.
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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    Quote Originally Posted by pitt_md
    I'm glad I got a grapple with two arms. Try handling 800 lb. large square hay bales.
    Unfortunately I don't have access to a 800lb square hay bale to test but I don't see any reason that would pose a problem for a single grapple. The bale could easily be lifted and would be stable without movement on the bottom of the grapple with the top grapple needed to hold it in place when moving. I've never had a problem carrying significantly longer or heavier loads of logs or big slabs of concrete. Photo shows a heavy concrete slab about the length of the hay bale you showed. Seems like there is enough clearance above it for the grapple to clamp on a haybale. Is your concern that the hay bale would come apart if only held in the middle?
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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    These large square bales require a lot of grip to pick-up-roll. I am glad I had to arms biting into them to get them up on the bottom tines. The way that they come off the baler they have the twine on the top and bottom. If you tried to get the grapple tines under the bale you will bust them up so you have to grip and lift and then roll back onto the bottom tines. Maybe your one arm is stronger than one on my grapple but I think with the material your handling it might just pull through with only one holding it.

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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor
    If the price includes installation of an electric over hydraulic valve, which costs about $700 plus, then the price is not too bad.

    I would personally go for the 48 inch single arm grapple. In all my time on TBN talking about grapples I have yet to get a convincing answer from anyone who buys a larger grapple as to what advantage they have found. I use a 48" Millonzi on a loader similar to yours (mine is a Kioti KL401 with 2700lb lift capacity at pivot pins). I routinely lift the rear of the tractor while using the grapple and it just doesn't care. You are also less likely to rist torquing your FEL with a narrower grapple as you have less risk of an asymmetric load. Much better to save the weight and lift capacity than to gain a little width IMO. What would you do with the extra width anyway? Most of us use grapples for brush and logs and small trees. No advantage for the larger grapples with those target loads. If you are picking up lots of construction debris then a wider grapple makes sense.
    I agree completely.. The only problem is according to the dealer Long would not warranty the 48" with the LA854 loader.. As my luck would have Millonzi goes out of business when I am ready to buy... I guess on the flip side if the weight of the 64" reduces my lifting abilityt to an unacceptable point I will have no other choice other than to buy a new M59
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    Default Re: Fair price on Long OBG2 64" grapple?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck K.
    I agree completely.. The only problem is according to the dealer Long would not warranty the 48" with the LA854 loader..
    The Long 48 inch grapple looks just as strong as the sadly departed Millonzi LD48. My loader is as strong as the LA854 and I have beat the snot out of my LD48 grapple without doing any damage other than a few "war wounds" like slightly bent upper jaw tips. It is my most used implement and works just as well today as it did when I got it over two years ago.

    I would, if someone stole my LD48, (I'm convinced I'll never destroy it), replace it immediately with either another LD48 if I could find one or else a Long 48. I'd take my chances with the warranty thing. Anbo doesn't stand behind their fancy grapple anyway based on a couple of TBN notes so I kinda doubt warranties are worth much on grapples. If you use them properly (straight ahead, not asymmetric torquing with either lift or clamp, then it is IMO pretty **** hard to hurt them. The clamshell style seems a bit more easy to damage based on a few reports on TBN. I've never heard of any breakage of the simple LD48.

    I prefer the Millonzi to the Long design as the LD48 has a slightly rounded bottom that allows you to lever or "roll" up a root or heavy object using tractor weight as well as loader strength while the otherwise very similar Long just has flat bottom tines so you can only lift or curl. The small Long would still be a great choice though.

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