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    I just noticed there is finally a local shop that rents attachments around here. Haven't had the timing to be going by when they were open, but saw a box blade in the yard. Any ideas what a daily rate would be on a 5' box blade? Been wanting to try one before buying, and the road needs some work, so thinking about getting it for the weekend.

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    I'm doing the exact same thing tomorrow with a 6' box blade. I didn't ask what the rates were. I know I want to try it out before I buy one and I have a road that needs some work. I have a 5' rear blade that doesn't do anything but tickle the road and make it laugh. If this box blade works out I'll be looking for a deal on a used one and trying to sell my 5' rear blade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dooleysm View Post
    I have a 5' rear blade that doesn't do anything but tickle the road and make it laugh.
    That makes me laugh too. Got some of that hard, red clay?

    If 5 ft doesn't work, I don't know why 6 ft would because the extra weight is spread over a longer length. Unless it's built heavier or has a hinged rear blade, I wouldn't expect too much.

    John in Bloomington

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    For hard clay soil, you ideally want 200 pounds per linear foot of blade width. So a 5' blade would be 1000 or more pounds.

    Having a flip up scarifier bar is also a big bonus as you can flip down to break up, then in 10 seconds be flipped up and smoothing. And that's with a manual version, the hydraulic version is quicker.

    jb

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    Doesn't the 3 point hitch apply down pressure? Mine does, so what difference does the weight of the box scrapper really matter, other than quality of the unit that is?

    I can tip my box and dig in the blade to the point my tractor won't move. Am I missing something here?

    I paid about $500 for my Grizzly 6' box scrapper and rippers. I imagine a fair rental price would be $20 a day, $50 a week and $150 a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipro3 View Post
    Doesn't the 3 point hitch apply down pressure? Mine does, so what difference does the weight of the box scrapper really matter, other than quality of the unit that is?

    I can tip my box and dig in the blade to the point my tractor won't move. Am I missing something here?

    I paid about $500 for my Grizzly 6' box scrapper and rippers. I imagine a fair rental price would be $20 a day, $50 a week and $150 a month.
    No a 3 point don't apply down pressure.
    You aren't seeing down pressure ; what that is is the result of the weight of the implement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skipro3 View Post
    Doesn't the 3 point hitch apply down pressure? Mine does, so what difference does the weight of the box scrapper really matter, other than quality of the unit that is?

    I can tip my box and dig in the blade to the point my tractor won't move. Am I missing something here?

    I paid about $500 for my Grizzly 6' box scrapper and rippers. I imagine a fair rental price would be $20 a day, $50 a week and $150 a month.

    About 99.99% of all tractors made don't apply down pressure. The cylinder is a single acting type and only is used to lift. To test yours, put on your box blade, raise it up and then put a tall stack of lumber under it. Then test it by lowering the box blade onto the lumber, move the lever all the way down. Did it lift the rear of the tractor off the ground ? If yes, you have the 0.01% machine. It's rare, but they are out there.

    If you think about it, putting down pressure reduces the weight on the tires and thus reduces the traction. Most implements are designed to pull down when engaging the ground and thus provide more weight on the tires for more traction. That's why most tractors don't have down pressure on the 3pt.

    Since your box blade can stop the tractor just by tipping forward, you probably don't have hard clay soil. It's about like trying to grade a cement driveway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipro3 View Post
    Doesn't the 3 point hitch apply down pressure? Mine does, so what difference does the weight of the box scrapper really matter, other than quality of the unit that is?

    I can tip my box and dig in the blade to the point my tractor won't move. Am I missing something here?

    I paid about $500 for my Grizzly 6' box scrapper and rippers. I imagine a fair rental price would be $20 a day, $50 a week and $150 a month.
    No your tractor doesnt have down pressure I have a similar model and mine doesnt. None of the Montana tractors have 3pt hitch down pressure. Like others have said it is just your rear tires losing traction as the box scraper digs in.
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    Default Re: Rental Rates

    farmall 560 d has down preasure

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdbikercouple View Post
    farmall 560 d has down preasure
    I think most if not all the 60 models have down pressure. My neighbors 460 has it also.
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