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    Default Implement/Attachment Hindsight

    As a new tractor owner, I have not yet acquired any implements or attachments, although I have already been pleasantly surprised at the unexpected number of useful chores that I can perform with the loader that I did purchase with the tractor. In hindsight, what implement or attachment turned out to be significantly more useful than you expected when you bought it? Conversely, what turned out to be significantly less useful than you expected? What do you think accounted for the mismatch between your expectations and reality: inflated expectations? victim of sales pitches or toy-buying urges? inexperience with equipment? insufficient research? miscalculation of how little time, or how much time, you would actually spend tractoring?


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    Default Re: Implement/Attachment Hindsight

    I've got to agree with you...the front end loader proved far more useful than I anticipated. My best example of this relates to cleaning the underside of a mid-mount mower.
    I can lift the mower with the FEL, use a pressure washer to remove the grass build-up, re-grease the unit, and be back mowing in 1/2 hour. And best of all, no backache...[img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    And add that pressure washer to the list of more useful than hoped for tools...it used to take far longer to clean out the mower with a old hockey stick, with poorer results.


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    Well I guess I'll be the first to start "opinionating" (my new word creation!)

    Second to the loader is the backhoe. Whether ditching, or "weeding" i.e pulling mass piles of blackberry vines off of my small fir trees, picking up brush piles with the hoe, "raking" with it in areas that I can't get my other "baby" tractor in (BX) digging stumps, cutting a shallow ditch to put the front tire in so I can cut a terrace in a hill side, using it to make a road down a hill by cutting the high side and putting it on the low side and even if I'm trying to go somewhere to pick some stuff up in the woods with the loader, using the hoe to move my tractor "butt" around as need be. Not to mention getting the tractor unstuck about a zillion times. Picking up the firewood logs in the woods in place with the hoe so I can cut them standing up (my back loves the backhoe), so I can cut them right then before they get dirty and dull the chainsaw. Using the hoe to lift car parts where I can't get in with the loader. Keeping my ditches clear so I don't flood. When my wife first saw the backhoe she wondered if we'd ever use it! Then she tried to plant something at the house we were building, hit a watermelon (glacier spud) and fell in love with it! (the backhoe not the spud!)... Except when I was helping her and managed to MASH the downspout. Practice Practice Practice! There's probably other things I'm not thinking about, OH YEAH, changing a rear tire sure is easy by lifting the tire off the ground with the outriggers!

    Third thing would be the on-off loader forks I now have. My Ford had a set that you had to pull the loader bucket off to use. I bent them up doing logging (not their intended use) and took the loader attachment and welded on an entire 3-pt fork attachmentt on to it, super heavy duty was great for hauling logs cleanly to the firewood pile even across the bad areas.

    It did require removing the bucket though, I didn't have any kind of a quick change setup except that I replaced the bolts with pull-pins, which still required someone else to goose the loader controls while I played with the pins. I found myself not putting it on and trying to do things with my back or the bucket or the backhoe.

    Now I have a set that hangs on the loader bucket, and I can go get them and put them on WITHOUT GETTING OFF THE TRACTOR! My first time and it worked great! To remove I have to get off, flip three bars in 10 seconds I'm back on the tractor, drop them and away I go, could do it in a Tuxedo. I find myself taking them on and off quite often. You can see what these look like (not on my tractor) at this link:
    http://www.oldcarparts.mygarage.com/images/Forks.jpg

    Third and a half isn't an attachment, it's another tractor, a BX2200, which I use kind of like a clown in a parade cleaning up after the horses! I make the mess, my wife gets it graded real nice with the BX2200. She can do this with what I believe is a great all around tool, a rear rake, with flip down grading blade and sides.

    I also have a traditional box scraper with pin down scarifiers (teeth) which I've used with the BX where I can't get the L35 loader or Hoe. I tow the BX to another piece of property and that Box scraper is my poor man's backhoe. Saves a lot of wear and tear on the loader assy. The flip down grader blade on the rake is for LIGHT grading or gravel spreading, not for digging. What makes the rake marvelous is the two adjustable wheels so it can float literally on the surface or go down an inch or however you set it. Rake also tilts sideways to throw your rocks off into a row if you wish, or get through a narrow area.

    After that it would be the upcoming removable bucket tooth bar for the loader on the L35 (and possibly on the BX). They are great not just for digging, but for raking brush and wood debris without digging up the dirt and not seeing what you're doing. Teeth on the Loader bucket are also a great extra parking brake mechanism, and will really help if you are trying to hold the tractor in place while using a backhoe. I have teeth on my Ford but they are welded on and I don't have the benefit of finish grading with the bucket edge. The removable bar will give me the best of both worlds, at least it will be if I can ever get the thing, am having one **** of time getting it actually here! Digging in a dirt pile is much easier with teeth on to help concentrate the initial force.

    Once I get that mounted I also want to get a "loader rake" which can be used to better pick up odd objects and brush.
    You can see what these look like with this link...
    http://www.oldcarparts.mygarage.com/...oader_rake.jpg

    Also coming is a hydraulic thumb for the backhoe.

    And most important, that all important feature the BX has that the L35 doesn't...

    A CUPHOLDER!

    And as to dissatisfaction? Well I had a brushhog and I found it a nasty loud cloud making device. It did do the job intended though! I just couldn't hack the cloud of ground up whatever going in my body past my goggles, past my filter mask. If I had to do that a lot I'd get a good sealing cab or scuba tanks. I'm blessed with allergy's to dust etc, a double edged sword, after 49 years I still have 2-3 weeks I can win a sneezing contest but as a 14 year old I wasn't able to tolerate smoking and had to quit after my first week!

    del

    Good luck and let the wallet start shrinking!

    Someone else mentioned something I have to disagree with. That comment was a suggestion to either by cheap implements or used ones. A cheap implement is just that and my feelings are you will regret it (from what I've seen) Used implements are great if they are OK. If the person has used his box scraper or rear grader bar over sharp rocky ground it may have lost much of it's life. The nice thing about quality implements is that you can usually get replacement parts! Some paint, maybe a new edge and presto!



    oldcarparts@mygarage.com


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    Wholly Cow I Blabbed So Long I Didn't Get to Be the First "Replyer!" Have to learn brevity!

    I second that comment on the mower, I lift my JD Garden tractor up as well to clean it!


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    Default Re: Implement/Attachment Hindsight

    I'm new to farming. So far, I am just clearing fence rows and getting rid of junk.
    But I have been amazed how much I have used my 16 foot trailer. I'll bet I have
    taken 70 loads of stuff around mostly to the burn pile. It was built for hauling vehecles
    but I use it for a wagon. I only paid $500 for it at an auction.


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    Default Re: Implement/Attachment Hindsight

    Del,

    Most of us bought inexpensive implements the first time. The second time we bought heavy duty implements (more expensive) that work much better and last longer. First time was a Rhino 6 ft mower and 6 ft box blade. Second time was a Bush Hog Medium Duty 6 ft mower with chain guards and a Gannon 76 inch boxblade with lever operated scarfiers. The weight on each went up about two times from the lighter duty to the medium duty implements. Usually it is very hard to answer the question "Why would anyone pay $1700 for a mower when you can buy one for $700. There is a reason, in most cases.


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    Default Re: Implement/Attachment Hindsight

    I couldn't get any of your links to work. Use the markup commands and then you can check them first. You don't allow access to your images directory, so couldn't troubleshoot why they don't work. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif[/img] The Home Page works.


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    I realized that afterwards[img]/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif[/img], but I can't go back and edit a posted post. You can copy the whole http...etc and paste it into your browser address slot and it will work. (easy witha Mac, not known how Windows handles this). I'll add them here again.
    LOADER RAKE http://www.oldcarparts.mygarage.com/...oader_rake.jpg

    FORKS
    http://www.oldcarparts.mygarage.com/images/Forks.jpg

    Thanks Wen for bringing that to my attention and not letting me continue to maintain my status as Joe Goofball!




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    Default Re: Implement/Attachment Hindsight

    First and foremost buy quality implements don't buy the the cheap stuff. You get what you pay for when it comes to implements I have gotten some great deals on used stuff but for me to even look at it or consider putting my money down it must be a brand name and of good quality. Buy quality once and it will last for years of abuse, buy cheap and it will break or wear out from regular use.
    The above is from experience!!!

    Now to your question on the most useful--hard to answer on a given day. Of course the front end loader comes first useful for so many things. Next item would depend on what you were going to do with the tractor. But for use on my tractor in winter my skidding winch and rearblade. In summer brush hog for clearing and rough mowing.

    For grading I use the boxblade, rake with gauge wheels (the wheels are a must have don't know how I lived without item), rearblade. I just bought a used Landpride 35series rearblade and have a gauge wheel for it as well. Also a good old piece of chainlink fence comes in handy for more than you could ever believe.

    I don't know if this count's but for any of the above to work to their full potential proper ballast is key. Another sort of add on item is a hydraulic toplink and that goes along with the gauge wheels on the rake---just makes life so much easier.

    Worst thing that I've bought is a flipdown grader blade on a rake it's light duty and I bent the heck out of it. My own fault light duty and me just don't get along on a tractor. But I had it for atleast 3 months before I twisted it. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    Gordon



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    Default Re: Implement/Attachment Hindsight

    Wow! the backhoe seems more useful than I thought. I was not planning to get one.
    Here are my reasons not to get one:
    1) expense - cheaper to just hire the work out for as little as I would use it
    2) too hard to attach and remove - I think most people who have one put it on a second tractor which I do not have and I am not planning to buy
    3) any backhoe on a tractor would be considered very light duty, in other words, it would not dig up stumps

    I think your post may have changed my mind some on points 1 and 3.


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