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    Default Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    Last week, I placed a pair of ads in the "wanted" section of my local Craigslist. I asked for a 1 or 2 bottom plow, and a dirt scoop.

    I was happy to get a couple responses right away, and am even happier to have a Dearborn 2 bottom plow and a 24" dirt scoop on my trailer now!

    I'm posting for advise, good or bad, about what to do with the plow. Actually, the scoop also. These are my first, besides the trailer hitch that I made.

    My tractor is a kubota B7100, 4wd HST, 16hp diesel.

    I know for sure this dual 14" plow is waaay too much for what I've got. The pictures that were emailed to me looked similar to all the other plow pictures I've seen online, although there was really nothing in the photos to judge the actual size of the beast. After an hour drive, and knowing the seller was recently laid off, I felt the asking price ($100 each) was very fair and we loaded them up in my trailer.

    Side Note: That FEL on their New Holland was really a fine tool. Lifted that plow like it was a feather!

    Anyway, I'm hoping that some of you will agree with me, that I can remove one of the plows and use a single 14" with my Kubota. What should I do with the extra "wheels" and such?

    Also, if you check out my pictures below, you can see the plows are missing the leading edge, and the bottom is a bit worn/rusted. I'm assuming these are meant to be wear parts that can be replaced, but are these things still available? What are they called? What do they cost?

    Now, on to the dirt scoop. This thing is also nice and heavy, the latch mechanism works fine, but the pins you can see are mounted on the outside of the "ears" and they are very far apart, say around 34"! Would there be any harm in removing them and facing them inwards? Or are my 3 pt arms capable of spreading out that far?

    Thanks for the upcoming advise!

    Jim
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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    Both of those implements do appear to be quite old, very heavy and well made too. Most implements were back in those days!! I think you should try the scoop pan as is first. If your sidelinks won't open wide enough, then turn the pins in and see if it will fit better. From what I can tell, it looks like doing that would not interfere with the dumping action of the pan. I bought an old pan that was a rust bucket, sanded it down, and painted it equipment yellow and it looks really nice now! Most pans made today are reversible, yours doesn't appear to be. Not being reversible limits some things you can do with it. For instance, if you could reverse it, you could scoop dirt right up to the edge of a foundation wall. I paid $90 for mine, so I think yours is a good deal for $100, especially if you paint it like I did mine.

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    Sorry, I can't help you a bit with the bottom plow, I don't have an experience with them....
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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    Hate to burst your bubble... But that little kubota is not going to pickup that plow let alone pull it!

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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    It would be wise to ask the questions first then buy.Worked for me.
    Good luck Framer

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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    Kebo,
    That's a nice looking scoop, you just sanded, not sandblasted? I have some por15 I was thinking of using, just would need to knock off the loose stuff.

    I also have a few products from Eastwood that I've been using on my floorpan patching project on my old convertible. A 2 part converter and their equivalent to por15, only in a spray can.

    On switching the pins around, my arms wouldn't spread that far, so I successfully moved the pins from outboard to inboard. No 1 3/16" socket, so I used a pipe wrench and my monster channel locks and actually broke them loose by hand!

    I hooked it up and did a little scraping behind the garage, still pretty frozen but I moved a little soil so all is good!

    I do agree about the reversible/newer scoops, I actually assumed all were until I started getting the pictures from potential sellers. From what I've seen, newer = more $$, like about triple, so I'll live with what I have here. I also have a welder and might look into adding links to the rear of the scoop in the future.

    Thanks for your input!
    Jim

    Quote Originally Posted by kebo View Post
    Both of those implements do appear to be quite old, very heavy and well made too. Most implements were back in those days!! I think you should try the scoop pan as is first. If your sidelinks won't open wide enough, then turn the pins in and see if it will fit better. From what I can tell, it looks like doing that would not interfere with the dumping action of the pan. I bought an old pan that was a rust bucket, sanded it down, and painted it equipment yellow and it looks really nice now! Most pans made today are reversible, yours doesn't appear to be. Not being reversible limits some things you can do with it. For instance, if you could reverse it, you could scoop dirt right up to the edge of a foundation wall. I paid $90 for mine, so I think yours is a good deal for $100, especially if you paint it like I did mine.

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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    Quote Originally Posted by mjarrels View Post
    Hate to burst your bubble... But that little kubota is not going to pickup that plow let alone pull it!

    mark
    Hi Mark,

    No bubbles here! Like I said, I know it's too much for my tractor. That's why I was asking about removing one of the plows.

    After getting the beast off the trailer by hand, I hooked it up to save my back any more of a beating while jockeying around the driveway. I've gotta say, it really didn't seem to have a problem lifting it, fyi.

    It's obvious that it would be pretty much an anchor if I attempted to use it as it sits. Since noone else has any experience with removing one "bottom," guess I'll be the one to answer questions the next time.

    Initial plans are to unbolt the I-beam for the front plow from the A-frame, then replace it with a shorter piece of 1" X 2" tubing to support the right side of the lower link bar. You can see this I-beam goes forward a bit too far as it is, the front disc wheel is mounted to it and interferes with the tractor's lower arm turnbuckle.

    If this doesn't work, I'll at least be able to bolt it back together and resell it in it's current condition.

    Wish me luck on those bolts!
    Jim
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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    I wish I had your plow as is. If you remove one bottom and the associated parts, I would be interested in buying some of it from you.
    I would give you half of your money back for a couple of things off the plow.


    Oh yeah, you can keep all the best parts.
    Do you know if the plow is 12 inch or 14 inch?

    Also you can call Scott or Alan at this number (717-896-3414) and he may have parts for your plow. It needs shins and shares and I know they have shares.
    Take a pic from the rear with the plow mounted and let's have a look at it. I'm curious about something
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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    $100 each, i would not pass that up even if would not work on my tractor. I bet Farmwithjunk would know if it would work by taking one of the plows off.

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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    Quote Originally Posted by allen in texas View Post
    I wish I had your plow as is. If you remove one bottom and the associated parts, I would be interested in buying some of it from you.
    I would give you half of your money back for a couple of things off the plow.


    Oh yeah, you can keep all the best parts.
    Do you know if the plow is 12 inch or 14 inch?

    Also you can call Scott or Alan at this number (717-896-3414) and he may have parts for your plow. It needs shins and shares and I know they have shares.
    Take a pic from the rear with the plow mounted and let's have a look at it. I'm curious about something
    Hi Allen,

    The plow is a 14". I really can't put it back on right now, since it's already in 2 pieces. I've attached a picture from yesterday that's sort of from the rear, maybe you can find what you're looking for there?

    As far as selling parts, I'm all for that. I'd like to wait until I try it out before I part with anything, though. Like I mentioned before, I may need to reassemble and sell it complete if the single 14" proves to be too much for my tractor. Let me know what you're looking for, and I'll check to see if it's serviceable.

    Also, thanks for the contact number, I'll give them a shot when I get closer to completion.

    Jim
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    Default Re: Just Picked Up My First Implements!

    I am specifically interested in one of the coulter assemblies.
    Maybe the whole plow if it comes to that.

    The reason I asked for the picture from the rear, is to see the location of the front bottom in relation to the right rear tire. I can't really tell from the angle of the picture but I would guess that the plow would need to move to the left or you need to space your tires out further. There's can be quite a bit to this plowing business as I've found out and learned on this site. Lot's of smarter people than me here, that's or sure.
    Personally, I think you can pull a single bottom OK but certainly not both.
    and of course that depends on what you are pulling it thru.
    Is the 16 HP engine hp or PTO hp?
    It's been stated here many times, a general rule of thumb about the HP requirements of a plow is 1 HP per inch of bottom.
    So, a 2 bottom 14 inch plow would need 28 HP.
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    1960 model 102 Ford 14 inch two bottom rollover plow on my little L3240

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