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    Default Bought mower...shaft too long

    Well, I decided on a finish mower for my 9N. Or rather a finish mower decided for me. I found a 5ft mower for a nice price. It has new belts and freshly sharpen blades and is freshly lubed. Problem is, the pto shaft is too long. I have an overriding clutch on the 9N and that puts the PTO out about 4 inches farther. Question is: can I just cut the shaft that goes to the tractor, or do I need to cut both halves? Problem with cutting the half attached to the mower is, I can't get the shaft off. I removed the bolt that goes through the yolk and the shaft but the shaft doesn't slide off. Is there something there I don't see? Plus the mower shaft has a grease fitting about an inch from the end so even if I do get it off, I can only cut less than an inch. I am planning on cutting the tractor shaft about 5 inches. That should give an inch for movement of the mower. Is an inch enough?

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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    cut both ends, just use a hacksaw, they aren't built out of real strong steel (amazingly enough).

    An inch probably isn't enough, when you raise it, you'll jam it up against the tractor shaft and jam the collar (which then won't won't to come off)

    Remember, cutting 1" off both ends takes about 2" off the whole length.

    Why is there a grease zirk in the middle of the shaft? Just to lube the inside the shaft? you can do that bhy hand once a season.

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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    Instead of me trying to describe the correct way, just look at the manual for a Bush Hog finish mower. Page 7 describes the way it should be done. And yes, ideally you want to cut an equal amount off each piece. While it's easier if you take them off, put them in a vise, and use a power saw, I've cut one with a manual hacksaw and it wasn't that hard to do.
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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    There is supposed to be a snap ring on the mower gearbox input shaft, that retains the yoke if the shear bolt were to break. I think this is why you can't get it off. You should be able to see it near the end of the shaft.

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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    Thanks so much for the instuctions. I've been looking for something like that on the net but evidently didn't know the correct words for google.
    I saw the snap ring on the shaft but couldn't budge it and didn't want to ruin it. First tractor experience! I will do the measuring and cutting in the morning. Will report my results tommorrow afternoon.

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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    Yep.. just cut in place.. as others said.. equal amount off each side.. IE.. for 6" cut.. cut 3 off each side.

    might hae to trim plastic sheath if it has one too. get some good bi-metallic blades and a strong arm..

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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    As it turns out, the distance from the tractor pto to the mower is too short. The closest point is 20" and the farthest point is 24". The shaft can't be cut enought to fit and still stay together while in use. Now I have to fabricate brackets to move the mower farther away from the tractor. Seems the overrunning clutch is the culprit, but I'm not going to remove it. It's too big of a safety factor. I found a machine shop that can make the brackets. Hopefully I'll have them by Saturday at the latest so I can put everything back together and try it out.Oh well, at least I'm learning each day!!! By the way, the mower is a Ford 930A and the gear box sits on the front of the deck.

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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    eh??

    sounds like you only have 4" of movement... with the shaft at farthest point.. 24".. should have 8" overlap and 8" either side .. or so.. when colapsed 4".. 2" each side.. seems like it should work??.. unles sthe yoke neds are huge and long.. like 6" each..

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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    Quote Originally Posted by LoneCowboy View Post
    Remember, cutting 1" off both ends takes about 2" off the whole length.
    Quote Originally Posted by Soundguy View Post
    for 6" cut.. cut 3 off each side.
    Explain to me how that works please. Every collapsible PTO shaft I've cut has been a 1:1 proposition. That is, if I need it 4 inches shorter - I take 4" off each end (and off both halves of the PVC tube). Based on your formula, I've been cutting mine too short all these years.

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    Default Re: Bought mower...shaft too long

    Quote Originally Posted by greg_g View Post
    Explain to me how that works please. Every collapsible PTO shaft I've cut has been a 1:1 proposition. That is, if I need it 4 inches shorter - I take 4" off each end (and off both halves of the PVC tube). Based on your formula, I've been cutting mine too short all these years.

    //greg//
    I agree with Greg.

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