Quick Hitches Land Pride Quick Hitch

[Piston]

I went though every attachment and set them up so that they would all fit right. I even had to make an upper extension bracket on one of them so it would clear. I then made 3/4" treated plywood benches and block setups so that they all had a place to be parked. my grapple, bucket, and forks had to be set up higher so that I could see over the hood to make quick attach hookup. I have added cameras front and rear so I can see down low, like the pallet forks, now I can actually see the tips of the forks going into a pallet. I can also get a good look at the pto shaft on the back without twisting my neck out shape.

Sounds like an impressive (and efficient) setup :thumbsup:

 

[Deerherd]

Dave, just to clarify, you referring to a cat 1 implement, with longer pins, used on a cat 2 QH that can fall off right?

Yes, but the adapter with the larger "ends" keeps them on.

 

[ovrszd]

The larger lower pin is an excellent idea, I will probably just go that route instead of dealing with the bushings. I didn't realize the threaded rod end was the same (or available) for a cat 1 implement vs cat 2, so that is even better. I wonder if they have cat 3 pins with the threaded rod of a cat 1 pin?

Richard,
I respectfully disagree that it has anything to do with wear. I could certainly be wrong of course, but disagree with that. I called Landpride yesterday with some of the questions I had posted on here. I talked to them for quite a while regarding the bushings and whether or not my box blade will work. They never mentioned anything about wear points, but did address why they had bushings in the first place. I asked so many questions that I don't really remember the reason, but it didn't have anything to do with wear. It had more to do with the industry not having an "exact" standard regarding category 1,2, and 3 implements. Only until relatively recently, did companies start really sticking with the standard spacing, which is why some implements do, and don't, work with the quick hitch.
I'm sure they could explain it better than me if you are interested.

I will have the same problem you mentioned with your box blade, and the quick hitch. He said the hook won't come up far enough to engage the top pin on the box blade, and that I would have to modify the box blade to get it to fit, which I will do. He did say that the rake and blade I have will fit. I also called Woods and they said the power rake should be quick hitch compatible too. So at least 3 of my implements should match up with no mods.

I'm going to look into changing the lower link pins. You guys that did it, do you notice any "slop" in your quick hitch with the cat 2 pins? Do you use cat 2 to 3 bushings to fit the quick hitch?


The landpride rep said that the quick hitch lower hooks are 1.5" inside diameter, whereas the cat 2 pin diameter is 1-1/8". Cat 3 is is 1-7/16". From what he said, the proper "spacer" for the lower link pins would be a cat 1 to cat 3 spacer bushing to provide a more rigid fit.


I am beginning to see why the "doubters" of quick hitches, doubt they're "quick" nature! However, I can see how once I do take the time to get all my implements setup, it will certainly be worth it....I hope.

1. I don't think you'll be able to find a CAT III pin with CAT I sized threaded end. That would be kinda pointless. The larger pin size is to handle the extra load of the attachment and/or HP of the tractor. The smaller threaded end would be susceptible to breakage.

2. No disrepect detected Piston. I'm betting the phone conversation with LP was VERY interesting. I'd be just like ya. I'd forget half what they told me, but it would still be interesting. My point about wear comes from 30 years ago when Quick Hitches were first put on the market. Wear was a big consideration and all sellers talked about the use of bushings. Speeco still gives you bushings with their QH. In the case of LP, you've perked my curiosity. I'll call them and talk specifically about this issue so I don't get bombarded by too much info. I can't see any reason for the makers of QHs to make a CAT I hitch with CAT II size hooks??? That just doesn't make sense unless they intend bushings to be used?? Hmmmm.

3. Yeah, you can fix your box blade pretty easy. Just remember you have to also move the top link pin hole forward so the QH hook doesn't hit your bracketry for raising the scarifier.

4. As we talked about before, a CAT I QH has CAT II sized lower hooks. My Northern Tool CAT I QH lowers measures 1 1/4'. A CAT II pin measures 1 1/8". Makes for a solid fit. Any tighter and you'd have problems getting hooked up A CAT II QH has CAT III sized lower hooks. My CAT II QH lowers measures 1 5/8". A CAT III pin measures 1 1/2'. Makes for a solid fit. When I use my CAT II QH, I use CAT 2 to 3 bushings.

I'm anxious to see how yours works when you get it. I'm guessing you are gonna use either CAT II pins on your attachments or CAT I to II bushings to get a proper fit. I'll step out on a limb here and guess the saddle part of the lower hooks, where the pin will ride, will measure closer to 1.25" rather than 1/5". It might be an open mouthed hook and be 1.5" at the top on the mouth, but you don't care about that measurement. Mine is that way also. Makes it easier to hit the pin.

Here's a link to Tractordata which explains the categories and their size.

TractorData.com - Three-Point Hitch

Lastly, yeah you are gonna love using a QH.

 

[Piston]

In the case of LP, you've perked my curiosity. I'll call them and talk specifically about this issue so I don't get bombarded by too much info. I can't see any reason for the makers of QHs to make a CAT I hitch with CAT II size hooks??? That just doesn't make sense unless they intend bushings to be used?? Hmmmm.

Richard, Your theory does make sense. Let me know what they say when you talk to them, because I really am interested to know the reason, and because you probably have a better memory than I do :laughing: I thought for a second (but then quickly dismissed it when I thought of the work involved) was rather than buying bushings to fit all the attachments, I thought maybe I could make an "insert" to slip inside the lower hooks on the QH, and reduce the opening to close to 7/8".

4. As we talked about before, a CAT I QH has CAT II sized lower hooks. My Northern Tool CAT I QH lowers measures 1 1/4'. A CAT II pin measures 1 1/8". Makes for a solid fit.

Wish I read this before.... I just placed an order for 3 sets of QH adapter bushings, cat 1 to cat 3. hmmm.... When you talk to Landpride, can you ask if they're lower hooks are 1 1/2"? I'm pretty positive he told me they were, and they should accept 1 7/16" bushings. Perhaps the QH aren't the same "standard" and the Northern Tool one you have is different than Landprides version?

TractorData.com - Three-Point Hitch

Lastly, yeah you are gonna love using a QH.

Thanks for the link. I really think I will love having the QH. I've read a lot from naysayers about how they are hard to hook up, but I've also noticed that many of them do not have a hydraulic top link and side link, so I'm wondering if that makes a difference. Either way, I have that covered.

Thanks for all the info, especially regarding the box blade. :thumbsup:

 

[ovrszd]

An insert of some kind would work, as long as it's removeable. I think in the end it would be easier to bushing the pins.

I've never saw a CAT I to CAT III bushing, where did you get those??

I would trust LP's design to be more accurate than my NT model. I'm sure mine is made in China. I'm thinking they were talking about the mouth opening of the hook, rather than the saddle where the pin rests.

I can not stress enough the importance of TnT if using a QH. You are trying to hit all three pins at once. If you are parking your attachments on flat concrete it wouldn't matter much. But I drop my attachments wherever the need arises and pay little attention to the grade level. No worries with TnT. Just takes a couple bumps of the rear remote levers and I'm hitched up!!!

Once a fellow starts down this road of laziness,,,, I mean efficiency of the 3pt hitch, there's no place to stop. I'm even brainstorming a way to latch the QH so I don't have to unseat to do that!!!!

 

[Piston]

I've never saw a CAT I to CAT III bushing, where did you get those??

I just looked on Amazon for them, hoping to take advantage of amazon Prime free shipping, but they didn't qualify for prime. I bought these ones...I normally don't like buying from Northern Tool but for the price I took the chance...
NorTrac Quick-Hitch Bushing Set - Fits Category 1 Hitches - Amazon.com

Also, Agrisupply, and I think tractor supply have them. Murph also linked to a company that sells them too. They also have Cat 1 to 2 as well.
I should have checked this earlier, but I looked up the parts breakdown on Messick's, and it lists them there as well.
QH15

Once a fellow starts down this road of laziness,,,, I mean efficiency of the 3pt hitch, there's no place to stop. I'm even brainstorming a way to latch the QH so I don't have to unseat to do that!!!!

Funny you mentioned not having to "unseat".

I've always said, my goal is to never have to get off my tractor :laughing: When I was thinking of upgrading to a larger tractor, with SS style QD on the FEL, I was trying to think of a way to rig up the "handles" of the quick disconnect system to a small hydraulic cylinder, so I could release and engage it from the seat! :laughing:

 

[ovrszd]

Those bushings are common and come with some QHs. They convert CAT I pins to CAT II to fit a CAT I QH. Confused yet???

Remember,,,, a CAT I QH has CAT II sized hooks on the lowers.

Going on the philosophy that a pictures is worth a thousand words, here's four. Excuse my rusty equipment, it's been fire tested.

The first two show a CAT I QH hitching to a CAT I pin. Note the slop.











These next two pictures show the same CAT I QH hitching to a CAT I pin with a bushing installed. The outside of the bushing is CAT II, which fits the CAT II lower hooks much better. This bushing is the cheap version of what you bought and requires the washer/latch pin method to hold it on. Your bushings use a roll pin to hold them on and are installed with the large end outward. This prevents the QH hook from slipping off the end of the pin.

 

[RickB]

We have sold the Landpride quick hitches and last week we sold a New Holland quick hitch made by Speeco, a company that makes a lot of hitch/linkage stuff. There are two differences in the Landpride and Speeco: the decals and the price. The NH quick hitch sold for $288.

 

[ovrszd]

Yeah, I figured LP was buying from someone. They didn't make my LP heavy duty box blade either, it was made by Gannon.

So now we know Speeco, LP and NH are all made by the same company. Hmmmmm,,, wonder who that is??

 

[RickB]

Yeah, I figured LP was buying from someone. They didn't make my LP heavy duty box blade either, it was made by Gannon.

So now we know Speeco, LP and NH are all made by the same company. Hmmmmm,,, wonder who that is??

Speeco is the manufacturer of the NH unit.