Rear Hyd Remote?

[chazzy]

I am getting a new 30-hp tractor (my first) soon and noticed that some folks are ordering one or two rear hyd remotes when they buy a new tractor. As for the attachments I am just getting 3 usual basic ones - FEL, bush hog & box scraper - to clear some bushes (my first intended main job). I don't know anything about the rear remote on a tractor.

Questions are:
> What is the rear remote for (I am guess it is for some kind of rear implement requiring hydaulic power/control)?
> Should I get the rear remote at the SAME time getting the tractor? Is it difficult to install by an average shade mechanic (if I buy it later realizing that I need one)?
> What's the average cost a remote, parts & labor by dealer?

Thank you in advance.

 

[mjncad]

I am getting a new 30-hp tractor (my first) soon and noticed that some folks are ordering one or two rear hyd remotes when they buy a new tractor. As for the attachments I am just getting 3 usual basic ones - FEL, bush hog & box scraper - to clear some bushes (my first intended main job). I don't know anything about the rear remote on a tractor.

Questions are:
> What is the rear remote for (I am guess it is for some kind of rear implement requiring hydaulic power/control)?
> Should I get the rear remote at the SAME time getting the tractor? Is it difficult to install by an average shade mechanic (if I buy it later realizing that I need one)?
> What's the average cost a remote, parts & labor by dealer?

Thank you in advance.

My suggestion is to get the remote(s) and possibly a Power Beyond now when you order or buy the unit off the lot. I'm no mechanic; but I put in my three remotes and power beyond kits myself and it saved me approximately 50% or more from what the dealer would have charged.

You didn't say what brand of tractor and whether it's open station or a cab. A cab unit will probably be more difficult to do yourself. I have an open station rig, and I had to remove the rear wheels, rear fenders, seat, and other assorted panels before I could do the kit installation. Plus I ended up buying lots of crowfoot wrenches and other wrenches to get the hydraulic fittings tightened properly.

Also, if you decide to do it later, don't wait too long like I did. I had a heck of a time getting the kits since they were no longer being assembled as a unit, and buying the parts individually would cost 2.5x the kit cost.

Right now I only use the remotes to power a hydraulic top-link, which leaves me two available remotes; but if you plan to run a backhoe or a log splitter you'll need a power beyond kit.

Hope this helps.

 

[pitt_md]

the rear remote is a VERY good idea. I didn't got one when I got my Kubota MX5000 and wish I would have. When I bought my new tractor I could not think of anything I would need it for. I use it all the time now. Mine powers my grapple, hydralic toplink, wheels on cultipacker (for moving from place to place) and the same on a disk I use.

 

[Ken45101]

It all depends on how you are going to use the tractor in the future. I've had two tractors for ten years without any rear remotes and never missed them. I used the tractors much like you expect to use yours.

I did trade in the original tractor last year for a 4wd unit and it has a rear remote on it. So far, I haven't used it. I did get Top n Tilt cylinders for the box and scraper blade but so far haven't been able to hook them up. I'm also considering an 8' tow behind mower which will require a hydraulic connection for raising it. (Generally, you don't get into tow behind/hydraulic connection mowers until you get to 8' or more.)

For most blade work, hydraulics can be nice (but expensive) but are really not necessary unless you are doing a lot of work with the blade. For simple basic, occasional use, you can certain life without it.

Of course if you are going to get a lot of fancy attachments (e.g. grapple) it's a necessity. A lot of other attachments such as backhoes and log splitters are PTO driven and rear hydraulics aren't used.

Rear hydraulics can be nice if you are really going to use them. Otherwise, they are an expensive additional cost.

Ken

 

[chazzy]

Thanks for the inputs gents...

I am getting a BobCat CT230 (same as Kioti CK230 HST) and would be using mainly for clearinng bushes on 5-acre land and some ligth soil/gravel moving. For what you gents mentioned above, I can't really think of what I would use for and the installation doesn't sound too easy - thinking about removing (relatively) big tractor rear wheels are quite intimidating to a newbie!

 

[dfkrug]

CHAZZY:
For the Bobcat/Kioti, you should definitely negotiate the inclusion of one
or 2 remotes with the tractor purchase. Going back to the dealer after the sale, you have no leverage. You are looking at about $350-400 for
the first remote for the kit, and it IS a DIY project that is not very hard.
You do not have to remove the wheel....I have done 2 CK30s and one CK20.
You will find the remote very useful with a hyd toplink for installing any
3-pt implement and it gives much better control of implements like a
boxblade. Since the first remote on these tractors is detented, you can
also run a backhoe from it (I do).

The second remote will cost a similar amt to the 1st, and I think it is not
detented. It does have float, I am told, but I have not owned one. 2
remotes are very handy if you get a T-n-T. Hyd T-n-T is very useful if
you do a lot of road grading with a boxblade.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

If you can afford the remotes, get them. Now is the time to get them. A Top and Tilt set up is very useful when using a box blade. Yes you can get by without them, but boy is it nice to have them. Any and all hydraulic accessories are very nice to have.

 

[dillo99]

Definitely worth having - at least 2 remotes. As others have said, can be done yourself either with kits of just by purchasing the needed parts but you can probably get a good deal up front so try that first.

 

[TTTTTT]

You may think of this as your 1st and only tractor, but if you ever decide you need to sell, the rear remotes would be a big selling point for most people. Many more implements need or use hydraulic hookup now than before. When you have them and start using them you won't regret it. I use mine for backhoe hookup, log splitter, future snowblower control, dump for a trailer and the list can go on forever. Check out a few implement sites and see the possibilities.

Enjoy

Dave

 

[Soundguy]

If you are already getting it plumbed for a fel.. get the remote..

soundguy

I am getting a new 30-hp tractor (my first) soon and noticed that some folks are ordering one or two rear hyd remotes when they buy a new tractor. As for the attachments I am just getting 3 usual basic ones - FEL, bush hog & box scraper - to clear some bushes (my first intended main job). I don't know anything about the rear remote on a tractor.

Questions are:
> What is the rear remote for (I am guess it is for some kind of rear implement requiring hydaulic power/control)?
> Should I get the rear remote at the SAME time getting the tractor? Is it difficult to install by an average shade mechanic (if I buy it later realizing that I need one)?
> What's the average cost a remote, parts & labor by dealer?

Thank you in advance.