07-06-2009, 07:09 AM
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#101 (permalink)
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| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? It took me a few minutes to read through most of these. I have a lot of toys and some are used more than others. I'll have to admit I dont use my boom pole much anymore since I've got a FEL with hooks. I dont think I could live without my box blade. It came with the used tractor. But I have over 500' of gravel drive to keep up. Which was one of the main reasons for the tractor. I'm still learning to use the FEL, and dont think I'll ever see me being good enough to level and fill holes like I can with the BB. I sometimes use three different tools to work the drive. Start with the back blade, to cut a small ditch and recoup what gravel I can. If the drive isn't too bad I move the yard rake and groom it. If it's got pot holes I use the box blade.
I'm in the process of clearing an area for a barn and I'm sure everything but the boom pole will come into play.
Wedge
__________________ 1967 Ford 4000, Box blade, straight blade, FEL, Rake, Bushhog, Backhoe, Jinma chipper, KKII tiller, Grapple. |
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07-06-2009, 09:30 AM
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#102 (permalink)
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Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The County, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,591
| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? Just in case my wife reads this, I would like to state that all my implements are essential and if I had more I would be able to do all the chores she can dream of. 
__________________ Steve
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07-06-2009, 11:48 AM
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#103 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Boston & Martha's Vineyard, People's Republik of Massachusetts
Posts: 1,712
| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tig Just in case my wife reads this, I would like to state that all my implements are essential and if I had more I would be able to do all the chores she can dream of.  | Now that's one wise man!
And definitely the party line around this place. They are ALL essential. Including that spreader buried in tall grass... I wouldn't want to have any sort of discussions prior to purchasing another attachment about how I've bought things I didn't need...
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Charles
Kubota B3030
Kubota M59 w/hydro thumb
Neat stuff - ATI Preseeder, Hydraulic PHD, Wallenstein BX62r Chipper, Millonzi Grapple, CA 4n1 Bucket. Delta Hook Rear QA system.
Too many other random attachments to list (or to own, per my gf) and a really bad tool addiction. But at least I haven't bought a dump truck or bulldozer. Yet. |
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07-06-2009, 11:55 AM
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#104 (permalink)
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Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tyler, Texas
Posts: 9,962
| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnViewRanch I have some questions for you guys that prefer your FEL to a box blade. What type of grading are you doing with your FEL? What do you do when you need one side lower than the other?  | First, I'm don't have anything against the box blade. I think it's a good, all around tool that does allot of things. In the right hands, it's proven to be an amazing tool that is capable of grading the ground as good as anything out there. While I'm not capable of this, and I've tried, I've seen others who are. Rob is a master with a box blade. His roads are as good as any you will ever see that are maintained with a Motor Grader. He has a skill that I do not.
Recognizing early on that it would either take more hours then I wanted to master the box blade, or figure out another method, I started looking around at other options. While watching some road construction going on in town, I saw how they used the loader to spread and smooth out material. Those guys who do this for a living are just amazing at how quickly they can do this. Once I saw it in action, I couldn't wait to do it myself.
I just push the bucket down flat on the ground and get the tires into the air. This gives me my maximum wieght on the bucket. Then I put the tractor in reverse and adjust the angle of the bucket. I can angle it so that I'm digging down to take off a high spot, or angle it up to fill a low spot. The shape and design of the bucket makes it easy for me to tell when it's flat and level, so that makes it really simple to make the ground flat and level.
Even though I have a dozer with an angle/tilt blade for finish work, I have found that I am better at finishing off a grade with the FEL bucket then I am with the dozer blade. When spreading the gravel for my driveway, I never even started the dozer.
One thing that I've read over and over again is that allot of guys use their box blade to smooth out their gravel roads and driveways. Gravel is a simple thing with just a few rules that you have to remember. One of those rules is that it needs to be at least 4 inches thick to keep itself together. If it gets thinner then that, it will start to fall apart and you end up with pot holes. From what I've seen, the most common reason for this is constantly scraping the gravel around to fill in low spots. All this does is remove the gravel from the good areas and put it on the bad areas. This doesn't actually fix the bad area, but instead, creates more bad areas.
I never scrape existing gravel. If it's left alone, it will last a very long time. once broken up, it needs to be compacted to a thickness of at least 4 inches. To fill in a low spot or pothole, you have to break up the gravel in the pothole and add gravel to that spot. Then smooth it out and compact it all together. The boxblade would be good for this if done properly, but that would require using the teeth to break up the gravel in the pothole and then spreading the new gravel over the low area. I can do all of this with my FEL allot faster and easier.
For those of you who don't have to buy gravel to put on top of your dirt, and live where your soil is naturally rocky, then the box blade is just fine for maintaining your roads. The problems happen from thinning down the rock that you buy and add to your soil.
Of course, if you don't start out with enough rock, or good drainage, then it really doesn't matter what you use on your road, it's not going to last very long anyway.
Eddie |
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07-06-2009, 12:11 PM
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#105 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Boston & Martha's Vineyard, People's Republik of Massachusetts
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| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? diverging onto road maintenance - I actually find the landscape rake + topntilt to be a great implement for maintaining gravel roads. In fact, though I do appreciate the box blade, I actually find a good landscape rake more useful for all but constructing the road in the first place.
I'm sure a rear blade can do a lot of good in the right hands as well, but in mine it just seems like a great way to destroy what I've already done...
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Charles
Kubota B3030
Kubota M59 w/hydro thumb
Neat stuff - ATI Preseeder, Hydraulic PHD, Wallenstein BX62r Chipper, Millonzi Grapple, CA 4n1 Bucket. Delta Hook Rear QA system.
Too many other random attachments to list (or to own, per my gf) and a really bad tool addiction. But at least I haven't bought a dump truck or bulldozer. Yet. |
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07-06-2009, 12:16 PM
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#106 (permalink)
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Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 4000\' mountains of Southern California
Posts: 1,989
| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlesaf3 diverging onto road maintenance - I actually find the landscape rake + topntilt to be a great implement for maintaining gravel roads. In fact, though I do appreciate the box blade, I actually find a good landscape rake more useful for all but constructing the road in the first place.
I'm sure a rear blade can do a lot of good in the right hands as well, but in mine it just seems like a great way to destroy what I've already done... | I think that pertains to all of us with certain implements-attachments. 
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07-06-2009, 12:51 PM
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#107 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: lambertville MI
Posts: 23
| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? Our chipper is one. I think the last time we used it was 2 years ago 
__________________ JD 4720 with 400cx loader........ |
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07-06-2009, 09:43 PM
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#108 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York
Posts: 476
| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieWalker First, I'm don't have anything against the box blade. I think it's a good, all around tool that does allot of things. In the right hands, it's proven to be an amazing tool that is capable of grading the ground as good as anything out there. While I'm not capable of this, and I've tried, I've seen others who are. Rob is a master with a box blade. His roads are as good as any you will ever see that are maintained with a Motor Grader. He has a skill that I do not.
Recognizing early on that it would either take more hours then I wanted to master the box blade, or figure out another method, I started looking around at other options. While watching some road construction going on in town, I saw how they used the loader to spread and smooth out material. Those guys who do this for a living are just amazing at how quickly they can do this. Once I saw it in action, I couldn't wait to do it myself.
I just push the bucket down flat on the ground and get the tires into the air. This gives me my maximum wieght on the bucket. Then I put the tractor in reverse and adjust the angle of the bucket. I can angle it so that I'm digging down to take off a high spot, or angle it up to fill a low spot. The shape and design of the bucket makes it easy for me to tell when it's flat and level, so that makes it really simple to make the ground flat and level.
Even though I have a dozer with an angle/tilt blade for finish work, I have found that I am better at finishing off a grade with the FEL bucket then I am with the dozer blade. When spreading the gravel for my driveway, I never even started the dozer.
One thing that I've read over and over again is that allot of guys use their box blade to smooth out their gravel roads and driveways. Gravel is a simple thing with just a few rules that you have to remember. One of those rules is that it needs to be at least 4 inches thick to keep itself together. If it gets thinner then that, it will start to fall apart and you end up with pot holes. From what I've seen, the most common reason for this is constantly scraping the gravel around to fill in low spots. All this does is remove the gravel from the good areas and put it on the bad areas. This doesn't actually fix the bad area, but instead, creates more bad areas.
I never scrape existing gravel. If it's left alone, it will last a very long time. once broken up, it needs to be compacted to a thickness of at least 4 inches. To fill in a low spot or pothole, you have to break up the gravel in the pothole and add gravel to that spot. Then smooth it out and compact it all together. The boxblade would be good for this if done properly, but that would require using the teeth to break up the gravel in the pothole and then spreading the new gravel over the low area. I can do all of this with my FEL allot faster and easier.
For those of you who don't have to buy gravel to put on top of your dirt, and live where your soil is naturally rocky, then the box blade is just fine for maintaining your roads. The problems happen from thinning down the rock that you buy and add to your soil.
Of course, if you don't start out with enough rock, or good drainage, then it really doesn't matter what you use on your road, it's not going to last very long anyway.
Eddie | Eddie Very nice, very informative and probably will save someone, or many, a lot of labor an aggravation. I could never understand why anyone would tear up a driveway to repair a small section or a few potholes. I maintain 3 unpaved driveways on my property and have never felt the need for a box blade, just don't want or need the extra work. I guess learning to use a box blade is easy but when may not be so easy. I quoted your post just in case someone skipped over the original.
__________________ JD 2320, 200CX FEL/61" bucket , 46 BH/16" bucket, FEL Forks, Snow Blade, Landscape Rake, Ballast Box, PHD |
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07-06-2009, 11:05 PM
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#109 (permalink)
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Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: VA
Posts: 2,611
| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnViewRanch What is the tilt tach?  | Quote:
Originally Posted by johndeere4300 | Mine is a Skid Steer item. Seems plenty strong. Im sure it doesnt weight 400 pounds. Just a bit on the high side of 200 Id say. Adds a lot of versatility.
larry
__________________ This side of 40 JD2010, Kubota L3450/FEL w SK QC, L2550 w FEL Mahindra 7520/FEL w Skid Steer QC & BH, BX1500 [ Mighty Mouse]
IH37 Baler, Hesston Haybine, JD Rake
Bushog, KK tiller, Rhino rear blade, Post driver, post auger, chipper, pallet fork, SK Tilt Tach, Grapple. Homemade Splitter/DC Welder |
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07-07-2009, 03:57 PM
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#110 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So central NH.
Posts: 423
| Re: What attachments did you THINK you needed but don't use much? #1 cord wood saw to much handling of wood
#2 3PT splitter why run 45HP tractor to split wood
#3clamp on forks Junk
#4stackliner did not like
Almost forgot 2 different quick hitch attachments 10 years ago Cat 1&2 |
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