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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    Steve C; agree 100% about the moving of rocks, use that any day over the FEL. Safer and won't cry too hard if something breaks.

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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    Lake Rat I know you from MWBP. If you are in KC I have one I will sell you. I think it is a King Kutter. I have a loader and just dont use it. PM me on MWBP.

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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    Oooops I am twanger over there.

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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    I have the KK boom pole and it works great. I bought it at Farm & Fleet at a reduced price due to end of season and a little rust on it. Don't forget some weight to hang on the front for safest use. I use around 100 pound block of concrete I formed in a plastic storage container and bolt to the front.

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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    On a 2wd tractor, a scoop and a boom pole are sometimes even more effective than a front end loader because of the obvious traction problem associated with those whereby weight in the bucket causes an unloading of the rear axle and subsequent loss of traction. Conversely, loading the rear scoop or boom pole increases traction. With my old Ford 2000, I used to hook the end of the boom pole onto the top link position of the scoop and add a couple lower link extensions made from angle iron and use it to load manure spreaders, dump trucks and such. Your little kubota is way short on weight and hydraulic power to pull of that feat but it can be done with larger tractors. I also used my Ford 8n on the scoop to dig several ponds. It took a while but was much faster than a shovel. I gave both the scoop and the boom pole away since getting a 4wd tractor with a front loader as they are no longer of any use to me. Although you can get by with a scoop, boom pole and 2wd tractor, once you go 4wd/front loader, you will never go back.

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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    Depending on the soil conditions, a scoop can do a lot better job of digging than a FEL.

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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    One of the slickest things I ever did with a dirtscoop is cut sod. I used one in reverse to cut thick St. Augustine sod. I found I could slice about 3" deep and come up with almost a perfect block of sod. When I went to dump it, I'd drop the scoop to the ground and pull the release lever while pulling forward and dumping. The sod just slid out onto the ground. I'm sure my soil type and moisture level made the job easy too, but the dirtscoop really made me look like I knew what I was doing.

    When moving material from a large area while going forward, you have to adjust your path often or you will end up with a ditch with your wheels on each side and the 3PH as low as it will go. If that ditch is too deep, your tractor will be tilted and not work as efficiently as on level soil. When removing dirt from a large area, if I could, I'd work in reverse except when I needed maximum traction. With a 4wd tractor, you should have plenty of power in reverse if you don't hit rocks. Just don't take too big a bite and you will be fine.

    I have not used my 3PH dirtscoop since I bought a tractor with a FEL. What I need to do is adapt it to a quick attach for my loader and use it as a narrow bucket for special times when I want to trench while using the FEL. Since I don't have a backhoe, I guess I could call that a poor man's backhoe.
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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    Quote Originally Posted by jinman View Post
    When removing dirt from a large area, if I could, I'd work in reverse except when I needed maximum traction. With a 4wd tractor, you should have plenty of power in reverse if you don't hit rocks. Just don't take too big a bite and you will be fine.
    Work with caution when using a scoop in reverse. 3pt hitches are designed for going forward and are not as strong in reverse.

    Personally, I never had too much success with using one in reverse.

    I have not used my 3PH dirtscoop since I bought a tractor with a FEL. What I need to do is adapt it to a quick attach for my loader and use it as a narrow bucket for special times when I want to trench while using the FEL. Since I don't have a backhoe, I guess I could call that a poor man's backhoe.
    Bobcat has an attachment for skid steers and front loaders with quick attaches that works that way. Digger Attachment - Bobcat Company It's sort of a "U" shaped piece of metal designed to dig or to trench. I saw it at the dealership attached to the front of a compact tractor. Salesman said it works going forward or reverse.

    Ken

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    I used my dirt scoop today to move a 275 gallon fuel oil tank ( about 1/4 full) and a piano! The tank was on legs with horizontal angle iron welded between them a couple inches from the bottom of the legs. I just backed under one side with the cutting edge of the scoop, chained it in place with a tow chain, lifted it and carried it about 300 feet and set it down. I did the same thing with the piano (it had been in a fire so I wasn't worried about scratching it). I have moved this piano 6 times in the last 40 years. This was by far the easiest move ever.

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    Default Re: Dirt Scoop/boom pole? (aka 3 pt bucket, slip scoop...)

    Quote Originally Posted by lake rat View Post
    Hi All, (What a Great Forum.)

    I'd like the skinny on dirt buckets & boom poles.

    I have an older, but solid kubota B7100D 4x4 (16.5/12 hp) with 5' scraper blade, 4' brush hog & 4' finish mower. All came as a package.

    While a FEL would be nice, I'm havin' trouble justifying the $3K, give or take (can't seem to find a used one, reasonable.) Looks like I could scoop and transport material w/ the dirt scoop and and lift stuff w/ a boom. I don't mind taking small bites to get the job done with less than ideal solutions where the cost is 1/10 for the scoop and boom as compared to the FEL, but I don't want to throw $ down the rat hole either.

    Let me have it, boys. Whaddya think? Am I fooling myself? Thanks for any/all feedback. I appreciate your time.

    Lake Rat
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    "From 5 a.m. to 'bout noon I play farmer, After that my favorite attachments are a boat w/ boobs aboard and beer cooler."
    A FEL will do more than a boom, rear blade, and scoop combined and do it easier. Even before I got a FEL I sold a 5' rear blade, boom, and scoop. Good riddance.

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