Best Way to Adapt this plate to Skid Steer

[CurlyDave]

I need suggestions on the best way to adapt this plate to a standard skid steer mounting plate. It is on a BobCat Model 10 Auger.

While it looks like a skid steer attachment plate it is smaller than the standard. This plate is 36" wide, while the standard plate is ~45" wide.

I have been looking for a hydraulic auger to use with my JD 110 for a while, and a guy about 20 miles away put this one up on eBay. While the information, especially specifications, on the BobCat site were pretty sparse, the auger unit itself seems to be pretty well matched to the hydraulic flow on my 110, at least from checking what BobCat units it is recommended for use with and then looking up their hydraulic flow rates.

The seller wasn't willing to ship the unit, which I think limited his pool of potential buyers and I got it for $760. This seems like a pretty good deal to me since it came with both 12" and 18" x 42" long bits. It seems to have only seen limited use.

The hydraulic hoses have the same connections as my 110 uses, and they are long enough to give me a lot of options in mounting.

I can buy a standard skid steer plate for ~$100 on eBay, and I can think of either just welding the full size plate to the back of this one, or possibly drilling holes in this one and bolting it to the full size plate.

The idea of bolting is appealing to me since I don't weld, and because it would allow me to return the attachment to its original condition by removing the bolts.

1. Does anyone have any better ideas?

2. What thickness of full size plate do I need? 3/16", 1/4", or 5/16" all seem to be available. The auger produces ~1500 ft-lbs of torque, which I think is going to be the most stressful force on the plate. The unit currently weighs 300-400 lbs, maybe 450 max with the biggest auger it will handle mounted.

3. Was this as good a deal as I think, or did I get snookered?

 

[Spudland_Dave]

While it looks like a skid steer attachment plate it is smaller than the standard. This plate is 36" wide, while the standard plate is ~45" wide.

How about the height of the plate? same as the standard SS?
Sounds like this comes off the "mini" Skid Steers...

I can buy a standard skid steer plate for ~$100 on eBay, and I can think of either just welding the full size plate to the back of this one, or possibly drilling holes in this one and bolting it to the full size plate.

The idea of bolting is appealing to me since I don't weld, and because it would allow me to return the attachment to its original condition by removing the bolts.

Well, since you dont weld, I'd say the best way to go about it would be cut off the existing mount and bolt on a new SS Plate.. IMO I wouldnt be worried about going back to original, PERSONALLY I have no qualms permanently modifying attachments to a True Standard Spec like Skid Steer QA or ASAE (iMatch) 3pt...

2. What thickness of full size plate do I need? 3/16", 1/4", or 5/16" all seem to be available. The auger produces ~1500 ft-lbs of torque, which I think is going to be the most stressful force on the plate. The unit currently weighs 300-400 lbs, maybe 450 max with the biggest auger it will handle mounted.

I wouldnt be worried with a 1/4" Plate...

3. Was this as good a deal as I think, or did I get snookered?

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Hard to say...the "commercial equipment" side of used equipment is all over the place these days....Considering you got 2 bits, I'd say its not a bad deal...I dont think its a SMOKIN Deal, but you didnt get snookered...like I said, values are all over the charts for used Construction stuff...

 

[JB4310]

2 choices come to mind quickly, either cut the back of yours so it's all flat and bolt/weld it to a dedicated skid steer plate that they sell.
Or extend the profile of yours that extra 5 inches on each side, would require a bit of fabbing and welding but could be made strong enough, that's provided the height dimension is the same between the 2.

Probably easier and cheaper to go with the bought plate, alot less fabbing and sure you could just bolt them together, no welding needed. There's plenty of room/flat contact area for a seriously strong bolt pattern.

Looks like a good find and worth it to make it work

jb

 

[JohninCT]

I'd agree that it looks like the easiest way to adapt it would be to get a standard SS QA plate with a solid center section and drill 4 or 6 mounting holes in the center between where the male QA receiver pieces mount and bolt it on there. !/4 inch thick plate and 3/8 to 1/2 inch bolts should be good.

 

[Just Bill]

Hello
I would buy a plate off of Ebay and try to get the same thickness as what is on there now.
Rather than bolt it I think you would be a lot happier having it welded at a shop or by a friend.
The last thing you are going to want to worry about is bolts coming loose from shaking and jerking.
1500 ft lbs of torque is serious and will tear stuff up.
Bill

 

[dex3361]

Torch off the too small plate and weld on a new one. Easy as can be should take just a bit to do.

 

[jenkinsph]

Curly Dave,

If the plate is the wrong size have you considered mounting to the hoe instead? The problem with using the skidsteer mounting on a 110 is that you can't see through the engine so it makes it a two man job. For this reason I went with the PA30 and backhoe quick coupler setup.


edit; The rear couplers have a higher flow than the front too, according to my dealer.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I would buy the plate off ebay and then take it to a fab shop so they can make a mount for the augers hydraulic motor. Take pictures or even the whole thing down to them. That way you can just take off the factory plate and install the augers motor to the new plate without cutting or drilling on the oem one.

Just make the part I circled and have it welded onto your new plate.


Chris

 

[EddieWalker]

Curly Dave,

If the plate is the wrong size have you considered mounting to the hoe instead? The problem with using the skidsteer mounting on a 110 is that you can't see through the engine so it makes it a two man job. For this reason I went with the PA30 and backhoe quick coupler setup.


edit; The rear couplers have a higher flow than the front too, according to my dealer.

I wouldn't want it mounted to my front bucket, but I would really want it on the backhoe. I don't know the size of your pins, or the pin on the auger, but if there's a way to make it work, that would really be a nice setup.

Bindian did this on her backhoe. I don't remember the thread, but she posted pics of it somewhere on here. It might be worth your time to send her an email and asking for more information and pictures on her setup. After seeing those pictures, it's the only way I'd want to go.

Eddie

 

[jenkinsph]

I had a partial delivery of the auger unit and three bits so far but am still waiting on the quick coupler attachment. Should be here any day now and will post pics once it is all here.