I think I need a Subsoiler

[Timber]

I had a lot of water problems this year for the 1st time since I bought this farm. I need to draw run off water away from the house & I was thinking of setting tubing underground using a subsoiler. I also need to run some waterline.

What do you think is the biggest diameter tubing you could realistically set underground with a subsoiler?

I am thinking of ordering one on line, I have vacation coming in a couple of weeks and I am planning on dealing with this issue. I have a warehouse so truck shipments are never a problem for me. Any recommendations or discounts from TBN supporters ???

Charlie

 

[art]

It depends on your soil but to just use a subsoiler I'd say you are in trouble. I'd borrow a backhoe for the weekend with at least a 12 inch bucket and get some four inch prederated as wellas solid for after you get away from the problem area.

You would also need to dig a type of dry well for it to run to.

 

[charlz]

I've pulled in 1.5" black poly pipe with mine. The 3 or 4" stuff you need for drainage likely wouldn't hold up to pulling in as it is corrugated and thin walled.

Are you thinking of putting in French drains or just drains below your gutter downspouts or ???

 

[RadarTech]

I was looking at doing the same thing.. Subsoiler for 3 or 4 ditches.. $160 or so plus tax at tractor supply.

then I thought about it.. a mini-ex rented for the weekend is $190..
that is with the trailer.

I have several other places I could use it..

So with that 16" bucket I can do a much better job..
and besides after I use that subsoiler I would likely sit it in the garage and not be used again....


whatcha think?


J

 

[Timber]

I was thinking 2" poly tubing into dry-wells. 2 inch tubing would be fine, I also need to run my sump pump int a dry-well. I have had good luck with underground dry-wells in the past and being in Massachusetts I have no shortage os stone. A backhoe is out of the question. It will be a mattock and spade 1st.

I have plenty of projects for a subsoiler from running water hose underground to electrical so it wouldn't sit. I also have a field with standing water in heavy rain as well as the front of my barn.

 

[jesnic]

I bought a middle buster at Tractor supply for $139.00. I have installed 4" corrugated drain pipe throughout my yard for the same reasons as yours. I can also unbolt the plow and use the shank as a subsoiler or cable burial or whatever. I have dug a few ditches with this and it has already paid for itself.

 

[Timber]

Everything Attachments has 1 I like that they use in there video. I was wondering if the plow attachment came with it or if it was available for it.

 

[bullbreaker]

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I have plenty of projects for a subsoiler from running water hose underground to electrical so it wouldn't sit. I also have a field with standing water in heavy rain as well as the front of my barn.

TBN member KennyD I believe while back had good info and pics on SS use working w/wire.
Here's link to his picasa pic's.
Boone

Picasa Web Albums - Ken - Wire

 

[charlz]

Everything Attachments has 1 I like that they use in there video. I was wondering if the plow attachment came with it or if it was available for it.

Well, a Middle Buster comes with the shovel and can be used for small trenches, laying off rows, planting/digging potatoes etc. You can usually change the tips with various shovels, sweeps, chisel tips (AKA Bull Tongue). The chisel tip is what you use for doing some sub soiling, pulling in pipe/wire etc:

A Sub Soiler is usually heavier construction and only comes with a chisel type tip, maybe you can use other tips maybe not. It is really meant for just ripping the ground and built to take it.

FYI using a sub soiler or middle buster you are likely to only get about 12" deep pulling in pipe or wire. Likely not much deeper for a ditch either. You might need to pre-rip the trench depending on your tractor and soil. I built my own adjustable one based on a Rankin middle buster product so I could go deeper while re-pointing ditches.

When pulling in pipe I used a longer bolt on the bottom of the chisel tip and added a short piece of chain to it. I then inserted the chain into the poly pipe, drilled two holes and installed bolts that went through the pipe and chain. Wrapped the whole thing in duct tape to help it glide and keep dirt out of the pipe. Does a pretty neat job, you can just drive down what your ripped with one set of tires and it closes it up nicely after the pipe is installed. Lots and lots of posts on here about pulling in pipe or wire.

 

[IslandTractor]

I had a lot of water problems this year for the 1st time since I bought this farm.

Everyone in SEMass and RI had major water problems this year due to the highly unusual amount of rain. I'm not sure I would engage in a major engineering project based on one year's excessive rainfall.