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DanD78 said:
If you are wanting to plow up sod a mowboard plow would do much better or mow it short and kill it off with Round up then chisle plow. Then disc it to death. You will fight clumps of sod until they break up or rot.

Dan
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I agree dan, but i dont want to plow 1.5 acres 14"s at the time!!!!! I be there for a week wouldn't i?

Ok i just did the figuring. A 1 bottom 14" plow pulling at 3mph (never done it so im not sure how fast i would go?) would cover 18,469ft/hr. This comes from the 14" plow being 1.166ft/wide and in 1 hour at 3mph you would travel 15840feet. Multiply the 2 togeather and i got my answer. So to plow an acre take 43,560(square feet in an acre) divided by 18,469, which comes out to 2.35 hours to plow 1 acre!! !:shocked: Even if im going twice that fast at 6mph (which im sure i cant do, at least at my skill level) thats still over an hour to do an acre.

As far as the clumps i have a disk harrow, it just rides over the grass. My BB rippers do the job, the box just fills up with sod and i have to keep raising it to let it out, so my idea is if the spring tooth will do that i get similar results with out having the back of the box to fill up.
 
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You aren't understanding the difference between the results of a chisel plow and a moldboard plow. A chisel plow is not made for sod ground and is going to take a LOT longer than a moldboard plow, and still won't do the job as well.
Yep, plowing an acre will take you a while. That's part of the job.
 
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clemsonfor said:
This is what i read on an older post, that it takes 15hp per shank, that would mean this 5 shank would take 75hp. This plow im looking at is from the middle to late 50's . How many 75 hp tractors existed back then and who had them? In the 50's my great granddad was proably still using a mule back then.

This dosent seem to make sense to me, i can pull my box blade with the 4 rippers lowered as deep as the dirt will allow them to go (BB tilted foward to get them deeper) and my yanmar 24hp will pull it all day long, i even busted the far tine through my asphault, be it thin asphault but still, as i was ripping the edge of the drive for my wife.

The way i see those rippers on your true "chisel plow" the only difference is the length. I agree, i will not burry them 10" and pull them but on a similar field to mine my bb without weight would only go 4-6''s the ground was so hard.
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15 hp per shank was a common figure thrown around in the 2 wheel drive days and even then, it depends on the soil type and condition and moisture level. Today everyone is going 4x4 and required hp needs to be figured with a different rule of thumb. Ken Sweet
 
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sweettractors said:
15 hp per shank was a common figure thrown around in the 2 wheel drive days and even then, it depends on the soil type and condition and moisture level. Today everyone is going 4x4 and required hp needs to be figured with a different rule of thumb. Ken Sweet
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I have a 2wd tractor, im not arguing but just saying i can sink my 4 rippers into my field and drive at idle with my little yanmar while those rippers are sunk.
 
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MMagis said:
You aren't understanding the difference between the results of a chisel plow and a moldboard plow. A chisel plow is not made for sod ground and is going to take a LOT longer than a moldboard plow, and still won't do the job as well.
Yep, plowing an acre will take you a while. That's part of the job.
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I do understand that the chisel and molboard are 2 entirely different things. I like bottom plow better so i will say bottom. A bottom plow takes the soil/sod and rolls it over so grass will die and each resulting pass across the field takes another bite, effectively losening the entire, i dont know, 8" or so, then you pass it with a disk to break down the soil ribbons into loose dirt that can then be planted in.

A chisel will bust up the dirt and leave big clods of dirt and dirt sod clumps, looking very messy. I HAVE a set of disk harrows that once i can get the grass loosened up some and soil exposed more i will then attack it with multiple passes with them, im just trying to get dirt exposed so i can plant for wildlife not grow crops. I would use just the disk but it seems that after 4-5 passes im just starting to cut the grass up to the dirt?
 
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I don't think you'll have those types of results with a chisel plow. I could be wrong, but I suspect the roots/sod will hold the soil together, making it very ineffective.
With enough passes, you can get a good seed bed with nothing but a good disk. That's all I use these days for food plots. At the very least the grass should be scalped as close to the soil as you can get. I prefer to kill with gly and wait a month when possible.
 
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I am not sure a chisel/ripper is going to be any faster than a plow. It is going to take a lot of passes with the ripper/chisel to get the ground in the same shape as the moldboard plow. Even then you are still going to have clumps of sod on top of the ground. Ken Sweet
 
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i was using a Lienback 5 foot disk. It had 20 disks and i had about a 6 foot piece of railroad track on it. I could lift it but had to steer with my brakes as there was almost no weight on the front when lifted, the easiest way to turn way to take all but a little weight of the disks then use the steering wheel.
Whats modern rail weight/ft i figured it was 400# or so?
 
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