Box Blade - too big?

   / Box Blade - too big? #11  
I guess I didnt realize how light a 3038 was until just now. 2087lbs.

And I thought my l3400 'bota was light @ 2600.

As others mentioned, yes you can use it, but probabally not to it's full potential. Your rear wheel spacing is probabally right @ 5'. Personally I wouldn't want a 6 footer for your tractor. I had a 6' land pride and it was a handful for me and I have ags.

I'd say wait and get the right one. Especially if you have R4's, it isn't going to perform well at all.

Do you have a fel???

If so, why not just use it? My guess is that it would work better than you think. A 30x30 area @ 4" is only about 11 yards of dirt. Thats only about 30 good bucket loads worth. If anything, spend the $100 and buy yourself a middle buster/subsoiler and bust the ground up a little to make the FEL work even better. Just dont go too deep and disturb the soil you will be pouring on top of.


Just to give you an Idea, these pics are of the 30x50 area I leveled for my shop. It only too 2-3 hours to do. It was on a hillside as you can see. I started in the middle and took the uphill side dirt and filled the downhill side. FEL is all I used. Just a suggestion though.
 

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I have a FEL with a 60 inch bucket (no tooth bar yet). I have tried to dig with it, and it wouldn't budge, all four wheels would spin when using traction control. and that was just trying to scrape a small layer of dirt

I was hoping the scarifiers on the box blade would be the saving grace.

Also I am not familiar with a middle buster, is it the implement you use before a turn over plow?
 
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CountyLine Middle Buster - 2128228 | Tractor Supply Company

CountyLine Sub Soiler - 2128333 | Tractor Supply Company

The second one (subsoiler) would probabalt do you the most good.

I made one when I installed my invisible dog fence. Cost me nothing cause I had all the scrap steel to make. If you are handy with a welder, have a decient shop and some scrap steel, it only took me a few hrs to make.

2x4 heavywall tube for the main beams and 1/2" x 3" plate sharpened one edge, and welded on for the angle. (I actually made it portrude through the 2x4 allthough I dont think it was needed.)
 

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just talked to the guy I am doing this work for, he said there used to be a tree where we will be working and what ever I bring needs to be able to deal with roots up to 2 inches thick?

If a sub soiler, scarifier etc hits a root can it damage the 3pt?
 
   / Box Blade - too big? #15  
I can pull a 66" with my 25 hp CT225. I can pull a full box. I have used up to 3 of the scarifers with no problem. This is in red clay dirt. But if I hit a buried stump or a large root, It will stop me cold.
You should be OK unless the old tree is still intact. If it is, you will have to use something to remove it or break it up. If the tree is not a problem, you should easily remove 4" in that area in a lot less than 4 hours.

Norm
 
   / Box Blade - too big? #16  
My 510lb 65" boxblade works perfectly behind my 32hp tractor. My track width with r4s is 61". Boxblades also differ by weight, so you should factor that in as well.
 
   / Box Blade - too big? #17  
i have a 72" walco box and pull it fine with all scarifiers down deep along my road just fine with my mf1635 ... need 4wd sometimes when going up hill or if i catch a root ... my road is hard pack with lots of riff raff and stone tossed in for good measure
 
   / Box Blade - too big? #18  
I can pull a 66" with my 25 hp CT225. I can pull a full box. I have used up to 3 of the scarifers with no problem. This is in red clay dirt. But if I hit a buried stump or a large root, It will stop me cold.
You should be OK unless the old tree is still intact. If it is, you will have to use something to remove it or break it up. If the tree is not a problem, you should easily remove 4" in that area in a lot less than 4 hours.

Norm

My 510lb 65" boxblade works perfectly behind my 32hp tractor. My track width with r4s is 61". Boxblades also differ by weight, so you should factor that in as well.

i have a 72" walco box and pull it fine with all scarifiers down deep along my road just fine with my mf1635 ... need 4wd sometimes when going up hill or if i catch a root ... my road is hard pack with lots of riff raff and stone tossed in for good measure

Weight equals traction and I think that is going to be the issue with the OP's tractor only weighing ~2000 lbs.

A CT225 weighs ~3000 lbs
A Mahindra 3215 is ~2600
and a MF 1635 is ~3200 lbs.

That is a lot as it pertains to traction and trying to pull a 6' box when if full, is about 1600-1800lbs of dirt. Again, I think it is a bit much given the weight of the machine.
 
   / Box Blade - too big? #19  
In my earlier post I mentioned my 30hp B7800 had trouble pulling my 60" BB. I should've specified that was worst case with a full box of wet clay. Traction was the issue there.
I just finished my pole barn pad and used the BB to remove the top 2-3 inches of sod, then put the scarifiers all the way down and cross-hatched the whole area to a depth of 4". The FEL easily picked up the remaining dirt. The 40x50' pad took about 6hrs but I admit I was playing around and experimenting with the BB. :)
 
   / Box Blade - too big? #20  
wow I didn't think there was that much disparity in weights of tractors of around the same hp. And here I was thinking the 3500lbs I have was light
 
 
 
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