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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehog View Post
    Looking for input. I have good access to equipment to fabricate a ripper for my Woods BH900. In reviewing what has been posted here and the pics that are provided, I have noticed that the relationship of the point to the locator pins seems to be different than that of the actual digging bucket.

    See the photos attached to see what I am describing. I have extended my backhoe to it's fullest reach and placed the dipperstick against the ground, also the bucket is in full open position. The front teeth of the bucket do not touch the ground <1/8" above. What are the advantages or disadvantages of maintaining the point location to actual bucket design?

    Pic 1 shows duplicating bucket location
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    Pic 2 shows what MEI style point to locators
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    I understand your question, not sure I can help. My ripper is not mounted currently but I don't recall the range of motion being different from the bucket. I do use the power setting for pin placement. Perhaps that is the issue. The 90x has two pin placement options for the dipper to bucket link. When I had MIE fabricate the ripper I asked that they use the power setting dimension which is what I use on the bucket too. I gave them a technical drawing provided by Woods which gave exact dimensions of the mount so it isn't like they made it up. I won't be able to check for a week or 10 days but if it remains a question I can measure next time I have access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor View Post
    I understand your question, not sure I can help. My ripper is not mounted currently but I don't recall the range of motion being different from the bucket. I do use the power setting for pin placement. Perhaps that is the issue. The 90x has two pin placement options for the dipper to bucket link. When I had MIE fabricate the ripper I asked that they use the power setting dimension which is what I use on the bucket too. I gave them a technical drawing provided by Woods which gave exact dimensions of the mount so it isn't like they made it up. I won't be able to check for a week or 10 days but if it remains a question I can measure next time I have access.
    Is the "power pin" placement the widest span? I as well have two pin settings on my bucket... in the views you can see that my pins are spaced the farthest apart... I was thinking that this was the strongest digging placement but I have never seen explanation for either setting.
    "Mr.B" 2001 TC35D 16LA loader, Woods BH9000 BH with Bro-Tek thumb & Ripper tooth "Stump Slayer"

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    IslandTractor and everyone subscribed to this thread~

    I appreciate your input and do not want to "High-Jack" this thread. So I have started a new thread for my "soon to be" many questions on the design of a DIY ripper.

    Backhoe Ripper tooth design - need your advice

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    "Mr.B" 2001 TC35D 16LA loader, Woods BH9000 BH with Bro-Tek thumb & Ripper tooth "Stump Slayer"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehog View Post
    IslandTractor and everyone subscribed to this thread~

    I appreciate your input and do not want to "High-Jack" this thread. So I have started a new thread for my "soon to be" many questions on the design of a DIY ripper.

    Backhoe Ripper tooth design - need your advice

    Thanks
    No problem continuing your discussion here as far as I'm concerned. There is a benefit to keeping similar topics together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehog View Post
    Is the "power pin" placement the widest span? I as well have two pin settings on my bucket... in the views you can see that my pins are spaced the farthest apart... I was thinking that this was the strongest digging placement but I have never seen explanation for either setting.
    I believe that is correct. I have only used the outside, widest "power" setting on my standard 18" Woods bucket and the ripper was fabricated to those dimensions. I have also never seen an explanation but it seems reasonable to think that if one is the power setting that would be the setting with the greatest leverage while the other setting might well be faster or be better for loading a truck etc so more useful for simply moving piles of sand or something like that.

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    I'm aware that I'm playing archeologist here but...
    IT and others, I recently got a used BH90-X with a 24" bucket. Clearing pasture mostly poping up granite in the 1-2000lb range. If I can afford only one, would I be better off with a 12" bucket or a ripper?
    Once popped out I will use my root grapple to transport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lukestafford View Post
    I'm aware that I'm playing archeologist here but... IT and others, I recently got a used BH90-X with a 24" bucket. Clearing pasture mostly poping up granite in the 1-2000lb range. If I can afford only one, would I be better off with a 12" bucket or a ripper? Once popped out I will use my root grapple to transport.
    I've never used a 12" or 24" bucket. I'd imagine the 12 would be ideal for trenching and better than the 24" at digging stumps.

    My experience is with a 18" bucket and the ripper. Both can dig stumps and rocks. The ripper is much faster and creates less damage to the surrounding area. To dig out a tree or stump with the bucket simply requires going further out to get at supporting roots after they've tapered down. With the ripper I am usually ripping those same roots three feet or so closer to the stump. Much less disturbance of soil.

    Were I in your shoes, I'd take the 12" if I had a big trenching project on my chore list but otherwise I'd opt for the ripper. The ripper can trench but not as cleanly as a bucket.

    Why did you choose a 24" bucket and would you do that again over the more common 18"? In our soil which is sandy and rocky, I find the 18" is about right. I'd have trouble filling a 24" with one motion.
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    Default Re: Added a ripper to my Woods BH90x: Trees beware

    I'm aware that I'm playing archeologist here but...
    IT and others, I recently got a used BH90-X with a 24" bucket. Clearing pasture mostly poping up granite in the 1-2000lb range. If I can afford only one, would I be better off with a 12" bucket or a ripper?
    Once popped out I will use my root grapple to transport.
    My wife told me to grow up. I told her to get out of my fort!

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    Default Re: Added a ripper to my Woods BH90x: Trees beware

    Island tractor
    I want to thank you for giving me the incentive to build a ripper for my ford 420 back hoe,
    I followed the contour and length of my 24 inch bucket, I built it our of some ar plate called hardox
    3/4 inch thick , it works great, the 420 weighs about 13 thousand , I also have a hyd thumb and it is on
    the same pin as the main pivot, I have no problem with install, I did bore the holes oversize on purpose about .030 If I remember right.
    Mine is nowhere as nice looking as yours , it was all tourch cut , I did cut some saw teeth on the inside curve which works well on the roots I cant break.
    sorry I don't have any pictures of it. but just wanted to thank you.

    Rich

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    Rich, thanks. You actually built yours so deserve more credit. I just saw a ripper on a big excavator and worked with Michigan Iron to develop a right sized version for a CUT.

    I still find mine valuable. It is a great tool for popping trees.

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