Quick Hitches Quick hitch

   / Quick hitch #11  
Kevin,

Jack said it. To work well both implement and hitch must meet the quick hitch standard. The quick hitch standard is not the same as the cat 1 3pt standard. The hitch standard would have to be much more constrained.

The bottom line is that if I have to modify my implements I might as well make them fit the standard, not just sort of close. Problem is that I think the standard costs about $60 to buy.
 
   / Quick hitch #12  
Kevin,

Jack said it. To work well both implement and hitch must meet the quick hitch standard. The quick hitch standard is not the same as the cat 1 3pt standard. The hitch standard would have to be much more constrained.

The bottom line is that if I have to modify my implements I might as well make them fit the standard, not just sort of close. Problem is that I think the standard costs about $60 to buy.
 
   / Quick hitch #13  
<font color=blue>A set up for a quick hitch should not require the hitch or implement to be adjusted. This turns it into a slow hitch. </font color=blue>

While I agree it would be nice if an adjustable top hook wasn't necessary, there's too much variation in implements to NOT have one. Not a perfect system but I wouldn't be without one. Makes heavy implements MUCH easier to hook up though I don't understand the width problem - all my implements hook up ok widthwise although I did have to put the post hole pins to the inside. I though 26 inches was kind of the cat 1 standard.
 
   / Quick hitch #14  
That's a good point about the top hitch. I wonder if the Midwest/First Choice quick hitch has one that's moveable or not. I know some people here saw a prototype at Louisville but don't recall if they indicated it had one or not. Perhaps either Jim Mc or Inspector 507 can shed some light for us.
 
   / Quick hitch #15  
Gary,
Probably just like the Midwest "Quick Hitch". We are still waiting to see it hit the streets. The last I heard from JimMc on the hitch was, patenting and so forth was delaying it getting on the market. So I imagine the hydraulic top link is probably the same story.

Jerry
 
   / Quick hitch #16  
Yes Gerald, some use an adjustable top hook. The Cat I standard has a 26" bottom pin spacing, pin sizes for top link, but no spacing between bottom and top is adheared to, The Cat I Quick Hitch standard (more constrained than Cat I standard) specifies I think 15 (or 14 7/8" ??) as the vertical spacing from bottom pint to top pin.

It turns out most implements need the top pin connection lowered. Also, a top link is usually dropped in from the top, while the hitch hook comes in from the bottom. Many older implements have parts below the top pin hole that hits the hook before the hook can engage.

The Cat I quick hitch standard must have addressed the hook size, clearance, approach angles, etc.

The bottom line is unless you buy all new green or "meets Cat I quick hitch standard" you may neeed some torch and welder time. So far, the time I have spent has been wort it.

I set my speeco top hook to the 15" position and will probably weld it there.
 
   / Quick hitch #17  
The Midwest quick hitch does indeed exactly conform to the Cat 1 implement standard as does all of the equipment we manufacture. However, we chose not to use the Cat 1 quick hitch standard for our quick hitch. The reason is simple. The Cat 1 quick hitch standard requires the use of bushings on the lift pins. We thought that idea provided few, if any, benefits, and the big drawback was you had 3 choices (none of them good in my opinion) to use a quick hitch built to the quick hitch standard.

1. Buy bushings for every piece of equipment you own. This would allow you to use your quick hitch with a good pin fit and still allow you to remove the bushings if you wanted to loan it out to someone without a quick hitch.


2. Buy new, larger diameter lift pins which fit the quick hitch standard. Now you can use your hitch with good pin fit, but must change out the pins to loan out.

3. Leave the bushings off and let the implement rattle around in the hitch. Not good for precise position control, but now you can loan out your equipment and it is less expensive.

In the end, I felt it much simpler to make our quick hitch fit the implement standard rather than the quick hitch standard. No bushings, no hassle, no extra expense, it just fits. If (actually the only benefit I have come up with for bushings is reduced wear) you wear the pin out from use, Cat 1 pins are less than $1.50 each.

I also decided that since all our implements meet the standard that an adjustable top link was not necessary. The comment that an adjustable height top link turns a quick hitch into a slow hitch is correct. Since folks who have equipment which does not meet the standard will be modifying their equipment any way, why add extra expense to the hitch. Just change the top link while you are at it.
 
   / Quick hitch #19  
Yeah, what Jerry asked... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Seriously, thanks for the complete and infomative reply. As always, a great learning experience for me. Thanks!
 
   / Quick hitch #20  
$466 per telescoping lower arm!! That's mind-boggling. I had no idea they were that expensive!! I paid $325 for my Land Pride quick hitch and I thought that was over priced. I would have purchased a SpeedCo from Northern Tool for $200, but I couldn't get at one so that I could measure the distance between the hooks. I was able to buy the Land Pride locally so I knew what I was getting.

Regarding an adjustable upper hook on a speed hitch. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not intended to be adjustable for each implement an owner might have. In my case, for example, I measured the height of the upper connection from the level of the lower pins on each of my implements and then I set the upper hook at the position that was appropriate for most implements. This turned out to be 18 inches for me, but I'm sure it would be other heights for other people. My friend the local blacksmith (he calls me by my first name and smiles when I come through the door) modified the implements that didn't meet this standard. I suppose the upper hook could be more easily adjusted if hitch pins were used instead of bolts, but I suspect things would rattle around quite a bit.

$466 for a telescoping arm!! Wow!!
 
 
 
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