PTO Problem with Allied/Farm King

[Scaper]

Well here's the bottom line. I spoke to the Company, three different reps plus the Dealer and it seems that the company is aware that the BX series and other subcompacts would need a cutable drive shaft to get the proper clearance when you hook up the PTO to a tractor. The rep told me that most if not all Canadian dealers know this but he wasn't sure if it's known here in the states by all dealers. They stated that they will have to do a better job of communicating this to their dealer network! Ok what do I do to get the proper PTO shaft? I have to pay more money to get a shaft that should come standard when you order a unit from the company for a tractor like the BX. The F512 shaft is the right one for a Compact(2320-2620-2920 etc.) but it's too long for those of us that use the subcompact units. "So here I sit broken hearted" not really just pissed!! that I have a new blower that I won't be using this next storm which we may get as much as 20" starting tomorrow night!! I plow for money not fun and this is a huge let down, not to mention a loss in the income department. So much for customer satisfaction!! Money already exchanged hands, see ya later!! They are going to get a proper unit out to me but at the additional cost around $110.00 out of pocket plus shipping time and no unit use when needed. I'm not sure but I think I know where that shaft is right about now!!! Scaper

 

[Happyman]

Are you saying the PTO shaft that came with the blower is too long? If that's the case, just cut it.
If it's too short, just buy a new shaft that's the correct length, or cut a longer one. Or am I not understanding your problem

 

[sweettractors]

I am a Farmking dealer for years. If the PTO shaft is too long, cut it to the desired length and blow snow. Most all implements PTO shaft needs to be cut for a specific tractor. If not there would be 1000 + configurations of Farmking 50 inch blower. Ken Sweet

 

[Scaper]

Well Ken then all I can say is that you better become one of the educated Farm King Dearlers in the US and find out what I was told is the truth. They know that the F512 shaft isn't right for a sub compact! You don't, but they do! I'm not a smart A#@ I'm just stating fact! I love the blower and I would have bought from you but I was given a much better price and low shipping which shipping is not your fault and I under stand that. This is a fact also! The company said that the F512 is not to be cut voids the warrenty. Point, set, match!! Why in the world would I cut the shaft when they tell me not to? I'm upset because they knew about the lenght problem but my dealer and yourself as a US dealer don't know about it. I called them and asked that they make their dealers aware so that no one else has to go through this crap. I was trying to be a good guy not a knuckle head. I also suggested that they provide some sort of parking stand (for lack of a better term) since the unit is front heavy with the lift arms at full extendable position. They thought that would be a good idea also. I'm not bashing the product just the fact that they should pick up the ball and replace the wrong shaft with the right one at no charge!! Respectfully submitted Scaper

 

[sweettractors]

Well Ken then all I can say is that you better become one of the educated Farm King Dearlers in the US and find out what I was told is the truth. They know that the F512 shaft isn't right for a sub compact! You don't, but they do! I'm not a smart A#@ I'm just stating fact! I love the blower and I would have bought from you but I was given a much better price and low shipping which shipping is not your fault and I under stand that. This is a fact also! The company said that the F512 is not to be cut voids the warrenty. Point, set, match!! Why in the world would I cut the shaft when they tell me not to? I'm upset because they knew about the lenght problem but my dealer and yourself as a US dealer don't know about it. I called them and asked that they make their dealers aware so that no one else has to go through this crap. I was trying to be a good guy not a knuckle head. I also suggested that they provide some sort of parking stand (for lack of a better term) since the unit is front heavy with the lift arms at full extendable position. They thought that would be a good idea also. I'm not bashing the product just the fact that they should pick up the ball and replace the wrong shaft with the right one at no charge!! Respectfully submitted Scaper

I think that Buhler/Farmking should publish a recall bulletin about the specific problem they are having with your situation. Tell them to email me a "service update" on this particular problem you describe. My email is sweet@scrtc.com. Thanks for getting to the bottom of this, Ken Sweet

 

[JJZ 109]

Not familiar with your exact unit but I have a Buhler Farm King 60 inch in use with my B3030. I don't recall the shaft being an issue because of the adjustable lower arms on the blower.
Also, I now have a TSC quick hitch that probably sets the blower out a tad further from the rear of the tractor. Could that possibly be a solution for you? I didn't have any issues on the current tractor or on the previous JD 790 even before the quick hitch.
I'm not trying to be a smart guy and I agree that Buhler/Allied should notify dealer and current customers about certain shafts not properly working with your application. But if they won't do anything to rectify the situation and you'd rather not mess with the warranty by cutting the PTO shaft, the quick hitch might set you back far enough to use the original shaft.
Just a thought.

 

[Happyman]

I've never heard of a warranty being void by cutting the pto shaft.

 

[Scaper]

Ken you are abosolutly right they should make the dealers aware and I think they already know that from what they told me. Happyman I agree with you but that doesn't change the fact that I was told not to since it would void the warrenty. They state that the F512 is not, I repeat NOT A CUTABLE SHAFT!!!! I'm the messenger here not the Devil. Look Guys unndestand that the F512 is the right shaft for COMPACT B and up series tractors, NOT SUBCOMPACTS!! Get it not subcompacts BX BX BX how else can I say this. Ken I hear very nice things about your business all the time but I want you to be aware of this not for my sake but yours and every other dealer. What happens if something goes bad and someone is hurt. You as a dealer if you install or present the F512 as the right shaft for a BX could be held liable!!! I don't like anyone being a scape goat not that the company would but sh@# does run down hill! I don't want your boots to have an odor. Ken we help each other here and we have a voice we need to use it to get this problem solved for everyone's sake. Scaper

 

[King Kutter Rep]

I've never heard of a warranty being void by cutting the pto shaft.

I wonder if they meant that the PTO shaft warranty is void? Not standard, but possible.

to the OP - I hope you get this resolved.

 

[Scaper]

King Kutter thats a great observation and I can honestly say I don't know. When I asked if the shaft could be cut and when they said no they also said it would void the warrenty and I didn't ask warrenty to the shaft or warrenty on the machine because of damage that might occur do to the shaft being tampered with. Good question!! Scaper