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    Default Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    OK, I'm a newbee and about to purchase a compact tractor, either kubota B series or New Holland Boomer.

    Anyway, dealer is telling me not to get a box blade, but that I'll be much better off with a rear blade for smoothing and to use the tooth add on to the FEL.

    Good idea or bad idea.

    Purpose: I need to level out about 3 acres that is rolling (not dramatically) plus do some drainage / ditch work.

    Tks for comments.

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    Default Re: Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    IMHO, a box blade is much better for leveling ground, cutting ditches, and grading driveways, etc. than a rear blade.

    Using my rear blade on anything but dry loose material always frustrated the heck out of me. Using the box blade always gets the job done for me.

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    Default Re: Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    I have both a rear and a box blade. After I got the box blade, the rear blade was only used for clearing snow. I got the box blade used on Craigslist. I have no problems pulling a 5 foot with a JD755 ag tires.

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    Default Re: Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    What are you trying to level? Part of my field was uneven with dips and ruts. Box blade with the scarifiers set all the way down for several passes will rip up the grass and get you down to good dirt, then raise teeth and let the box do the rest, Also had to use on buddys driveway, was extremely compacted and the teeth needed to dig it up before leveling, would never had been able to do it with just a blade. Though don't forget your landscape rake, and drag mat.

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    Default Re: Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    Quote Originally Posted by johnandcaren View Post
    OK, I'm a newbee and about to purchase a compact tractor, either kubota B series or New Holland Boomer.

    Anyway, dealer is telling me not to get a box blade, but that I'll be much better off with a rear blade for smoothing and to use the tooth add on to the FEL.

    Good idea or bad idea.

    Purpose: I need to level out about 3 acres that is rolling (not dramatically) plus do some drainage / ditch work.

    Tks for comments.
    I think what the dealer was advising you was! being you have a FEL perhaps you could install teeth onto the bucket and do what I box scrape would do, and if you need to scrape something for any reason just simply get a scrape blade, This is the way I would have taken his suggestion,

    I had considered installing a tooth bar onto the FEL of my tractor, But thinking about how much I use it while back dragging would leave grooves cut into the ground, Lately I have level spots of Folks who are wanting to erect an above ground pool, and they prefer to have it as flat as possible,

    so I still use the Box scrape for engaging the teeth to break up the ground and come back with the FEL to move the dirt

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    Default Re: Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    I have a box blade and a rear blade. My thoughts on this are:

    The box blade is better for leveling because it contains the material in a box and the sides help it "float" across ups and downs with the material sort of filling the downs and the blade on the box cutting the hills more level.

    Depending on the type of rear blade, some of them can be adjusted to an angle to cut or clean out ditches in a way that you really can't do very well with a box blade.

    Having said that, I sometimes clean out my ditch with a V shaped plow point that I attach to my box blade in place of one of the rippers.

    You can pick up a used dirt blade around here for $125 on up. I wouldn't fork out a lot of money for either a new blade or a new box at the dealer.

    I've got a dirt blade, but it just sits nearly all the time.

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    Default Re: Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    Quote Originally Posted by johnandcaren View Post
    OK, I'm a newbee and about to purchase a compact tractor, either kubota B series or New Holland Boomer.

    Anyway, dealer is telling me not to get a box blade, but that I'll be much better off with a rear blade for smoothing and to use the tooth add on to the FEL.

    Good idea or bad idea.

    Purpose: I need to level out about 3 acres that is rolling (not dramatically) plus do some drainage / ditch work.

    Tks for comments.

    There are numerous tools that will aid you in this work, to get started with this a rearblade for the ditches and swales is a good choice. The toothbar and fel is a low cost route for light ripping of the soil too.

    To make the ground smooth a landplane/grader with toothbar would work very well too. The landplane/grader is my first choice for smoothing and averaging out large areas for lawns.

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    Default Re: Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    Quote Originally Posted by johnandcaren View Post
    OK, I'm a newbee and about to purchase a compact tractor, either kubota B series or New Holland Boomer.

    Anyway, dealer is telling me not to get a box blade, but that I'll be much better off with a rear blade for smoothing and to use the tooth add on to the FEL.

    Good idea or bad idea.

    Purpose: I need to level out about 3 acres that is rolling (not dramatically) plus do some drainage / ditch work.

    Tks for comments.
    NewB2 here - Could not stand it, paid my last vehicle pymt and just bought a 2012 Kubota BX25 with FEL and BH and Box Blade. I have played around with everything until she told me it was getting late and I had to come in. I was wondering about the BXpanded FEL Tooth Rake. Would it do any better for clearing small stuff verses the box blade scarifs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewB2

    NewB2 here - Could not stand it, paid my last vehicle pymt and just bought a 2012 kubota BX25 with FEL and BH and Box Blade. I have played around with everything until she told me it was getting late and I had to come in. I was wondering about the BXpanded FEL Tooth Rake. Would it do any better for clearing small stuff verses the box blade scarifs?
    We have the Pirhana toothbar and it been great for raking, loosening hardpack,general digging, stump and small tree removal, and my chaon on bucket forks fit over it, so its never off the bucket.

    Thomas
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    Default Re: Box blade vs rear blade+front teeth

    I built a box blade for my bobcat skid steer to use for leveling gravel driveway and cleared pasture and i really like it. It seems to do a good job of filling low spots without me having to spend much time worrying over them. I have used a rear blade on a tractor before and found that it took a lot more work to level the freshly cleared land.

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