HP Requirement for IH 440 Baler

[IH_4_Me]

Hi guys,
Just wondering what the PTO HP requirement for an IH 440 square baler is? Or any other conventional square baler? Thanks in advance,

Glenn

 

[Anonymous Poster]

40 hp on rolling terrian or 35 on level--may cheat a little on hp if you have 4x4 --Ken Sweet
Sweet farm Equipment Co
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[IH_4_Me]

So if my calculations are correct, I should be able to run an IH440 baler from an IH 384 tractor with 36PTO-HP on flat ground? Or from an IH 454 tractor with 40 PTO-HP on hills?

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I bale with an IHC 300 rowcrop & a NH 270 baler - about 36 hp. Works well on my hills with a hayrack behind too.

In addition to hp, you want a tractor heavy enough to pull and more importantly stop everything. The plunger on the baler can really rock a light tractor.

--->Paul

 

[timb]

Paul,

What would you estimate the weight of your 300 is (are the rears filled?) You did say "row crop" i.e. a Farmall, not an IH 300 Utility, right?. I see "dry" weights listed for the old Super H/300/330 series anywhere from the high 3's to mid 5's. (3,800 lb. - 5,500 lb.)

Tim

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I have no extra weight on the tractor. It is the larger row crop style, not the smaller utility. I've always been confused by the Farmall/International thing, as it says International on the side of it!

The baler is a good one, but not the newer high-capacity style. I put about 120 bales on the hayrack, sometimes more. Just started using a hay basket last year, that's about 110 bales. That tractor & baler have been paired for about 40 years, 2-5,000 bales a year. The TA is nice, to have several slow speeds & shift on the go - sort of.

--->Paul

 

[timb]

Fellow who's haying my place now uses an "H" for the rake, but is baling (big round baler, didn't catch the model) with a big IH 856 (100 PTO HP, probably goes around 11,000 lb the way he has it set up.

Not going to be confused for a compact.

Would love to have a "good" reason to have an old letter or hundred-series <font color=red>Farmall</font color=red> around (outside of just because /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif) but actually regularly using a tractor of that vintage gives me pause everytime I read of a farmer flipping one. (Still happens around here all too often. /w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif)

I believe there are ROPS out there for the oldtimers but that just "looks" so wrong. If you don't have one on yours, keep the shiny side up!

You have the narrow or wide front end on yours?

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Would love to have a "good" reason to have an old letter or hundred-series Farmall around

Hi timb--If you could overcome your concerns with the Narrow Front?--I would like to show you a "M" Farmall that I just took in on trade--it is unusual, in that it has Power Steering and very good original sheetmetal--We mowed about 10 acres with a (pull type) 10 ft Brush Hog with it and I was amazed how easily it handled it--I have a couple neighbors that are using the old M Farmalls to pull a small round hay baler (4x4 or 4x5)with no problems----Ken Sweet
Sweet Farm Equipment Co.
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[timb]

Not to get too far off-topic, but the old Farmalls surely are nostalgic. Nearly every day I pass by a narrow-front "C" for sale that's been parked for some time at a nearby intersection. Have no idea what condition it's in mechanically, but it's got <font color=red>fresh paint</font color=red>, tires, and decals. Seeing it in the sunshine last summer I told my wife I should buy it for a lawn ornament if nothing else. For a minute I thought she was actually going to say go ahead!

Tim

 

[cowboydoc]

How do you like the hay basket? I"ve been thinking of buying some of them for this year.