I'm done dealing with the Flat Toothbar

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Mine broke at the weld where the tooth is welded to the bar. i just lost another tooth again last night. Granted, I'm not babying it, but they shouldn't break off. My tooth bar is flat, so the only support the teeth have is the weld. I ordered one from Gator and I'll see if that works better. The one from Gator is not a flat toothbar and the teeth wedge into the cutting edge of the fel which gives it more support. These are pictures of the first toothbar that I broke teeth off of. The new toothbar broke the same way.

It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't lose the teeth when they break off, I can always weld them back on, not that I should have to. You just don't know when they break off and I can't find them. :(

I would say that the inherent design of a flat tooth bar will render the teeth not as strong as a tooth bar where the tooth utilizes the under lip of the bucket for added support. I would think that in most cases the weld holding the tooth would be sufficient to hold the tooth unless used in extreme conditions or utilizing a loader with very strong hydraulics.

I am going to buy a tooth bar for my loader at the end of the month and had my mind set on a flat one but this post has certainly given me thought at to the design and possible issues of the flat tooth bar under extreme use.
I also have a Markham and can say only good things about it.

Thank you for posting Ixicc. Apparently, some design and process refinements are in order to make the flat alternative completely viable. Sure would like to have you test a Markham. ;)
larry
 
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It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't lose the teeth when they break off.... I can always weld them back on....... and I can't find them. :(

I have a metal detector and have found all sorts of lost stuff from a metric copper washer in the grass to my log chain in a dirt pile.
 
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I don't blame you. After two failures I would put it behind me also. The flat tooth bar is nice to leave the ground smooth when back dragging and also it helps protect the bucket blade when going forward. The design of the flat tooth bar is weaker than the traditional tooth bar and that is why it is only made up to 62". I'm thinking that if I had a product that was not holding up I would get back with the guy I bought if from and see about getting my money back. I just happen to know the guy you got it from and I'm pretty sure the manufacturer would take care of it for them.

Nelson
W. R. Long Inc.


I bought a WR Long flat toothbar and the first bar they sent me which I purchased from Iowa Farms, 2 teeth broke off at the weld. I found 1 tooth but the other one is lost. This was only using it for a few weeks. Iowa Farms got in touch with WR Long and they sent me a replacement at no charge to me.

The other day I broke a tooth of the new one. Luckily I found it. I am going to weld it back on and put the tooth bar on CL and sell it. I just ordered a new toothbar from Gator attachments and we'll see how that one holds up. This one I ordered is not a flat toothbar so since the teeth will mount in the cutting edge of the bucket, I don't see me having any issue's with teeth breaking off.

I think the WR Long tooth bar is good for general work, but for cutting into shell and tree roots, it just doesn't hold up.
 
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How about getting a bolt ON one's? That's what I did and so far all are great... I got the Bobcat style tooth and is waaaayyyy cheaper than tooth bar. Used 1/2" grade 8 bolts to install. The underside is also flat for back dragging which I do all the time with my current project. I also use it for pushing trees and uprooting the roots cuz my backhoe broke again... Thanks for the rain...:thumbsup:
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