Fred Cain subsoiler

   / Fred Cain subsoiler #1  

Botabill

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Because of an unusually wet spring here in Ontario Canada, getting on my gardening was delayed more than a month. In addition to a wet spring my land is heavy clay with a compacted hard pan that can be like concrete that won't let the soil drain. I've resisted getting a sub subsoiler for some time partly because I couldn't find one in my area but also because I couldn't decide if I should get a cheaper one or bite the bullet and buy the more expensive Fred Cain subsoiler. I finally made the decision to get the Fred Cain subsoiler from Sweet Farm Equipment. Ken was right on when he estimated it would take about four days to arrive.

When I came home Thursday, there it was in my driveway. It looked solid and BIG. I had taken a gamble buying it as I didn't really know if it would fit my Kubota B2620 a 26 HP compact tractor or if my turf tired tractor would be able to pull it. (I have issues of tire slippage when I use my small single furrow plough).

After unpacking the subsoiler I began the task of adjusting the 3 point hitch to accommodate the beast. There was just enough room to mount it but it only cleared the ground by at most ½ inch and that was when in was in the jack knife up position used for transport or backing up. To complicate matters, when I headed over to the area I wanted to subsoil a little dip in the land caused the subsoiler to pull back and engage diving for china much to my amusement (OUCH). Anyway I solved that glitch by lengthening the top link to raise the cutting edge angle and used a chain to hold it up for transport.

I've attached photos that show 1/ even with turf tires and a compact tractor the Fred Cain will dive and pull the subsoiler real deep. 2/ how well it pulls through sod that hasn't been worked for 40 years (notice the mole hill it leaves behind which easily pushes down if you drive up it); 3/ The length of the subsoiler when the 3 ph is at its highest level with the subsoiler engaged to dive (It's a tight fit): 4/ how I chain it for transport (the little white dog is my Parson Jack Russell 'Dot)

The bottom line is the Fred Cain is a solid well designed subsoiler that, with a little ingenuity, can be used on a small compact tractor to its full potential. As a word of warning I think the B2620 is the smallest tractor this tool would fit on.

I'd also like to salute Ken at Sweet Farm Equipment. It was a pleasure doing business with him. Thanks Ken!
 

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   / Fred Cain subsoiler #2  
You are welcome and thanks for your purchase. I can tell by the pics that the subsoiler is doing its job. If you had a cut away view of the soil, it would show a hole through the subsoil about 3-4 inches in diameter where the point runs. Ken Sweet
 
   / Fred Cain subsoiler #3  
Botabill - that's a real nice looking subsoiler. I like that it is hinged for shear bolt protection. It's one of the modifications on my to-do list for my TSC unit, which looks very primitive in comparison. I had a similar transport issue, creating big divots in the lawn (and almost one on the paved part of the driveway) whenever I hit a small rise or dip. This had The Plant Manager on the warpath. This Spring I stumbled into a solution while trying to replace the chisel point with a shovel for hilling. I disconnected the top link and swung the whole implement 90 degrees with the top going towards the tractor. This allowed me to work on the plow bolts without having to get on my hands & knees in all the mud we had. With the point replaced, I stood back to behold what I had done. To my surprise, I realized that by folding the top link onto the spine of the implement & the addition of a bungee cord, I had unintentionally solved my transport problem. Maybe a similar rig would work for you? :
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Sometimes the best way to find something is to stop looking for it!
-Jim
 
   / Fred Cain subsoiler
  • Thread Starter
#4  
Great idea Jim. Next time I have mine on the tractor I'll see if the same idea will work for me. Cheers!
 
   / Fred Cain subsoiler #5  
I know this is an old thread but I am in Ontario too and want one of these real soon. How did ken get it to you in 4 days? Any idea of freight?

Thanks
 
   / Fred Cain subsoiler #6  
I know this is an old thread but I am in Ontario too and want one of these real soon. How did ken get it to you in 4 days? Any idea of freight?

Thanks

We sent it UPS. Shipping will be $120 to your door. Ken Sweet
 
   / Fred Cain subsoiler #7  
I'm terrified of UPS. **** brokerage fees!!!!!

I have products shipped to 14304 for my business and pick up there every couple weeks. I may end up going that route.

Thanks
 
   / Fred Cain subsoiler
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Yes the brokerage fees were about $90. Wish there was some other shipping option as that is is not a reasonable cost. This is not Ken Sweets fault though.
 
   / Fred Cain subsoiler #9  
Ya. Not Kens fault for sure. We really get taken when it comes to cross border shipping. :-(
 
 
 
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