Flail Mower about all P.T.O., driven mowers in general

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leonz

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The rotary cutter and flailmower function with

the tractors power take off to provide the

torque and speed with a one to one gearbox

for the specific mowing implement with the

mower increasing the blade tip speed with a

V belt drive using smaller diameter V-belt pulleys

in the case of rear mounted rotary finish mower

and belly mowers; where a belt driven flail mower

uses a V belt drive pulley which is smaller than the

driven pulley to slow down the driven pulley which

is attached to the flail mower rotor.



A rotary cutter or flailmower mounted on the front

of a tractor will take its power from the front crank shaft

harmonic balancer and possibly a reversing gear box

depending strictly upon the implements normal rotation.



In the case of the very large mid mount belly mowers where

the V-belt is powered using the rear P.T.O., stub shaft like our

old 1969-70 IH Cub LowBoy(original) with a 4 cyclinder water

cooled IH engine which used a single rear P.T.O., B type pulley

which directed the belt to a pair of pulleys bolted to a frame

under the tractor axle which in turn routed the same V belt to the

center pulley of the 6 foot belly mower of the IH cub Low Boy

which in turn powered the separate secondary driven belt that

rotated the mowers left and right mower spindles using a spring

tensioned snubber pulley which pulled against the V belts flat side.


The much older IH Cub Lowboys were higher and had an offset

operators station and used the Mott Flail Mower as a belly mower

in some models.


The older Mott flail type belly mowers and larger mid mounted

belly mowers used a V belt and pulley with mounting frame and

pulley pairs routed from the rear P.T.O., to secure the B size V-belt

to route it to the V-belt pulley on the flailmowers exterior to rotate

the pulley and in turn the flail mower rotor to cut the grass.


A bat wing mower uses a center mounted right angle one to one

gear box to transmit this power to the second and or third wing

gear boxes to mow at the 540 R.P.M., speed using telescoping

P.T.O., shafts that are positioned diagonally to the lower left and

or right in the case of a 3 section bat wing mower with enough of

a diagonal angle to allow placement of the gearbox(es)in order to

allow the wing(s) to fold for transport in a road near legal or legal

transport width or to allow repositioning at work to bypass substantial

obstacles which must be driven around to continue mowing with the left

and or right wings lowered to continue work.


The rotary finish mower and the rotary brush cutters cutting blades function

with what is referred to as "blade tip speed" to mow the grass or brush with a

high speed of horizontal rotation. This blade tip speed can approach or exceed

150 miles per hour which is 220 feet per second.


Using the information provided by BEFCO for thier line of Hurricane flail mowers

the BEFCO Hurricane flail mowers use a 540 R.P.M., P.T.O., speed delivered to

the right angle gear box which delivers the rotary speed to the smaller speed

up drive pulley with a shaft drive supported by a universal joint in some cases

and an open bearing which rotates a small V belt pulley which in turn rotates

the larger rotor pulley using V-belt(s) provides the necessary slower rotor speed

via the driven pulley of 2,278 R.P.M., at the 540 R.P.M., P.T.O., engine speed.


This in turn provides a blade tip speed of 8,858 feet per minute which is 220

feet per second(rounded) to mow with the "Verticut method of mowing" with knives

attached/mounted to individual shackles which are attached/mounted to the flail

mower rotor.


This high speed of rotation and blade tip speed is due to thesmall diameter of the

Befco flail mower rotor in the example and other flail mower brands rotors as well

which is aided by the small grass slicer knive wieght allowing a greater speed up

of the cutting edge of the grass slicer due to the lower wieght of the

individual grass slicer on the flail mower rotor.


Some past and present flail mower designs allow the switching of the V belt

drive and driven pulley position to increase the flail mower rotor speed to allow

them to acheive even an fasterspeed of rotation (blade tip speed) around the

horizontal axis of the flail mower rotor to do a more efficient shredding job of

the grass clippings.


The flail mowing rotor speed of the "BEFCO Hurricane" flail mower mounted implement

using the "Verticut Method" is the same speed as a typical rotary cutter at 540 R.P.M.,

but presents more cutting edge per foot of cut as compared to a rotary cutter or the rotary

rear finish mower which uses half of the mowers cutting width at any time due to the single

cutting edge exposed at any time during during mowing.

Other flail mowers have a much higher blade tip speed for slicing brush without exchanging the

V-belt pulley position but I have not discussed them here.


_________________________________________________________________

Please tell my cows to come home;
they have to clean up the mess they
left after the toga, beer, and pizza party
last night and pick up all their beer cans,
pizza boxes, and dirty togas they left by the pool.
AND clean the pool!!!!!

Oh and by the way you can tell them I burned their
movie stash and they can forget about anymore allowance!!!!

I will not clean up your mess again!!!!!


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A little fun on a wet, wet day:thumbsup:
 
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   / about all P.T.O., driven mowers in general #2  
Still "OCD" over those inefficient, overpriced, high maintenance, power robbing, limited use flail mowers I see....

You should really try to get out more often and expand your horizons.
 
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i had a 25 kw pto generator, ran like a top, was very heavily built and did everything i asked it to do, ran it of a new holland 1520 so would only give me about 10 kw. the reason i went with a electric start portable is that my wife and daughters would not be able to hook up the pto gen set to the tractor if i was at work, the smaller 10 kw tri fuel i bought stores in the garage, they wheel it outside the garage door, about 10 feet, plug in the cable start the generator and flip the switch to run the house, it runs my house very well, and the ladies of the house can handle it if i am not there.

i liked the pto genset built like a tank but for my situation maybe not the best choice.


alex
 
 
 
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