3-bottom too large for JD 520?

   / 3-bottom too large for JD 520? #11  
We had a pull type JD 3-14's with a 520 in sod. Soil was more sandy gravel. When you got into heavy soil it made her grunt. Was the main tractor for several years on 280 acre farm. Back when these where built 3-4 MPH was field speed.
 
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Well from what several of you are saying, it sounds as if the smaller two-bottom is probably the safer choice considering the smaller acres I'm going to be doing at one time.

The only one I've been able to find locally is a Dearborn 10-156 (2-14) (see pictures). I think the seller is asking around $200 for it which doesn't seem too bad, but I'm not all that familiar with buying/pricing plows. 'Looks like the shares could use a decent polishing but my sandy loam soil out here doesn't seem to stick to much.

'Any thoughts on whether this would be a decent match for the 520 or 60? If not, what models or things should I look for instead?

Thanks again everyone-

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   / 3-bottom too large for JD 520? #13  
Coulters! Decent spring trip 2 bottoms with coulters will occasionally pop-up for sale in the $300-$400 range in my area. Nicer plows will also have an adjustment on the hitch to help track straight behind the tractor. You will only have to set it once for the tractor, but it helps.
 
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Actually I was wondering about the coulters on these moldboard plows. I see some with and some without. Are coulters always a necessity or are they more useful for certain soil types rather than others?
 
   / 3-bottom too large for JD 520? #15  
Actually I was wondering about the coulters on these moldboard plows. I see some with and some without. Are coulters always a necessity or are they more useful for certain soil types rather than others?

IMHO, I wouldn't own a plow WITHOUT coulters. Others may have a different opinion. I'll go out on a limb and say MANY of those who don't like them, haven't plowed with properly adjusted coulters. They can be a source of aggravation in "trashy" (crop residue or tall weeds/grass) conditions if not set correctly.

Coulters cut crop residue so it doesn't hang up on the leading edge of the plow shin. They cut through roots when plowing sod, albeit just a few inches deep. That helps keep a clean furrow wall so the landslides have a consistant surface to work against.

It isn't a "life or death situation" if you DON'T have coulters, but they sure make for a better looking finished job if installed and set properly.

Of course, there's a lot more to making a plow work well than just the coulters, but they do a considerable bit IF....IF they're adjusted correctly. Often times, people will set them too deep, or too close to directly in line with the edge of the shin. They need to run 3/8" to 1/2" towards the land side of the plow (from inline with the shin) If the plow has coverboards, the distance needs to be increased to 3/4" to 1" and set a bit shallower when in crop residue (ie corn stalks, wheat straw, ect)

Setting coulters too deep will hurt the plows ability to "suck" into the ground in cases where soils are dry and/or hard. I've always had better performance when coulters are set to where they run 1-1/2" to 2-1/2" deep when the plow is at operating depth.

In some rare instances, you'll find "plowmen" who run coulters ALMOST as deep as they're plowing. That takes light soils, and a VERY good plow. (good sharp, unworn shares, enough built in weight to help pull the plow in the ground) You'll find this to be a more common occurance in competitive "match ploughing" rigs.
 
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Thanks for the detailed info on the coulters, that's very helpful. I wonder if they might be more of a hindrance than help for the situation I'm facing, however. I'm going to be plowing in some areas of pretty heavy weeds/grass. I'm planning on mowing them down pretty low, but I don't have a way to remove what's sure to be a fair amount of weed residue on the surface.

Aside from missing the front coulters, is that Dearborn plow I posted the pictures of look like a decent possibility? I've read some posts on other forums where guys have had luck with these 2-bottom Dearborns...but I'm not sure whether they were using ones with coulters. Apparently this model (10-156) was an 'economy model' sold without coulters...

They can be a source of aggravation in "trashy" (crop residue or tall weeds/grass) conditions if not set correctly.
 
   / 3-bottom too large for JD 520? #17  
I have a Older Dearborn 2 bottom and only the back plow has the coulter on it. I'm plowing old grazing land that is sandy and there is about 3" of sod. Guess where the sod balls up at?

On the front plow without the coulter, then the plow doesn't suck down as well with all that pushing it up. So I basically end up with one furrow that is just sod removed.

Yes I can stop back up start again, but then you still have a small ball in that row until you disc down. I would buy a plow that has coulters already, it's really easy to take them off, alot harder to find them if you don't have them and the bracket on the older plows.
 
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Good advice. I think I should have the coulters at least as an option.

Would coulters for this model be hard to come by as you suggest? I'm not looking to do a restoration, just to have a good working plow, so coulters from other models/manufacturers or something more modern would be fine if they could be made to fit. I think the seller would go down to $125-$150 for the plow so that would leave some money for buying some coulters and still make it an affordable plow... ?

I would buy a plow that has coulters already, it's really easy to take them off, alot harder to find them if you don't have them and the bracket on the older plows.
 
 
 
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