Cultipacker Guideline Use for Sowing Seed

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Here is a guide that a friend has compiled. I hope you find it useful and if you need a cultipacker, we probably can provide you one. Just call Toll Free 1-866-528-3323. Ken Sweet

"Firming up your seed bed:
Many people choose either offset disks or roto-tillers to work up their soils.* These implements do a very nice job; however, when trying to plant into freshly disked or tilled fields, most will inadvertently incorporate the seed too deep into the seed bed, primarily because of the fluffiness of the soil.* A cultipacker will firm up the freshly tilled soil by compressing the air out of the soils surface which will allow you to plant seed firmly into the soils surface.* This is critically important when planting small sized seeds, such as clover, alfalfa and chicory.* If you incorporate any of these seeds deeper than a シ inch you will not have a good stand once germinated.
Breaking up soil clods:
When tilling soils with a little too much moisture in them you'll have the tendency to leave large chunks of soil, which at a later date will make it difficult when planting.* Most seeds need to be firmly pressed into the soils surface, which is difficult to do when you have large clods of dirt distributed throughout your*food plot.* A heavy cultipacker will help eliminate large clods making for a better, more consistent planting surface.
Moisture retention:
I've heard of people using flat-surfaced lawn rollers for compaction when planting their*food plots.* My first thought is. a flat-surfaced lawn roller is better than using nothing at all, and is considerably better than pulling a drag over your freshly planted plot.* However, a cast iron roller will do a much better job, primarily because of moisture retaining issues.* Why? Think of it this way.* If you pour a full glass of water on a counter-top, what happens?* The water will run every direction looking for the lowest point to run off the counter.* Pour the same glass of water over a flat, corrugated piece of steel and you'll notice much of the water will end up in the lower points of the corrugation.* This is exactly what happens in your fields.* The groves you leave help trap moisture in your field as the corrugation groves act as mini-reservoirs allowing your soil to bank moisture for future use.
Even out uneven terrain:
Cultipacking has the tendency to take the undulation out of your soils surface.* This helps you achieve a more even distribution of seed when you broadcast plant and will allow you a better uniformed planting depth when planting with a row-crop planting implement.* A field that is firm and smooth before planting will germinate quicker and grow more uniform, and this can only be accomplished by floating off the uneven terrain with a good cultipacker.
Planting into a firm seed bed:
The rule of thumb when planting seed is you never want to plant the seed any deeper than four times its diameter.* When you consider clover, alfalfa, chicory or any other like-sized cultivars, this calculates into depths of no more than a シ inch or less.* Incorporating seeds at this depth is almost impossible when using drags or disks.* The results from using a drag or disk will culminate in seeds either being planted too deep or too shallow.* The best planting practice to implement is to cultipack first, broadcasting your seed, and then cultipack once again.* You'll notice better seed germination as well as more uniform growth.* You'll be amazed at the difference you'll see."
 
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I have to agree. I made a roller-below and it worked way better than any drag I had used. Borrowed a cultipacker and planted the same way and rolled-packed the seed. It worked WAY better with almost every seed coming up. And to say the least they all came up at the same time. When planting small seed it is a must and with larger seed- I have found that you can just not cultipack after tilling or discing. So small seed, till, cultipack, spread seed cultipack in. Larger seed, till, spread seed and then cultipack in... This year I will plant rye, oats and clover all together. So I will till first, then spread my oats and rye cultipack then spread my clover and cultipack again... By the way got my cultipacker wheels from sweet and they were perfect and good price! The roller I made just didnt break clods up and high centered on some of the fields and I didnt get proper packing with it..

AndyG
 

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I have to agree. I made a roller-below and it worked way better than any drag I had used. Borrowed a cultipacker and planted the same way and rolled-packed the seed. It worked WAY better with almost every seed coming up. And to say the least they all came up at the same time. When planting small seed it is a must and with larger seed- I have found that you can just not cultipack after tilling or discing. So small seed, till, cultipack, spread seed cultipack in. Larger seed, till, spread seed and then cultipack in... This year I will plant rye, oats and clover all together. So I will till first, then spread my oats and rye cultipack then spread my clover and cultipack again... By the way got my cultipacker wheels from sweet and they were perfect and good price! The roller I made just didnt break clods up and high centered on some of the fields and I didnt get proper packing with it..

AndyG

Nice job Andy. I wonder how much lead weight you could put in those tubing frames. That would really help on knotty soil. For the guys who like to "project", I have 2 other sets of just used rollers and axles and pillow block bearings running on Ebay. We have 20-25 used cultipackers on hand today. Ken Sweet
 
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I've got an 8 ft Brillion coming so we'll see how it goes.
 
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I forgot to mention that I traded the roller for a boxblade. No longer needed it nor wanted it after using a cutlipacker. :thumbsup:

AndyG
 
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I have to agree. I made a roller-below and it worked way better than any drag I had used. Borrowed a cultipacker and planted the same way and rolled-packed the seed. It worked WAY better with almost every seed coming up. And to say the least they all came up at the same time. When planting small seed it is a must and with larger seed- I have found that you can just not cultipack after tilling or discing. So small seed, till, cultipack, spread seed cultipack in. Larger seed, till, spread seed and then cultipack in... This year I will plant rye, oats and clover all together. So I will till first, then spread my oats and rye cultipack then spread my clover and cultipack again... By the way got my cultipacker wheels from sweet and they were perfect and good price! The roller I made just didnt break clods up and high centered on some of the fields and I didnt get proper packing with it..

AndyG

These photos were very helpful. I also looked at some photos of used Cultipackers on the Sweet website and it got me to thinking. I have a spiker/spreader that includes wheeled spikes spread about 3.5 inches apart - I'll be using it to spread the seed. I was wondering if I could put cultipacker wheels in between these spikes and have a similar tool to what you've created here. But, because of the spikes in between it might break up any dirt clumps better. I'm looking for an inexpensive way to replant my pasture which became overrun by weeds back in the drought of 2012 so I killed it off and am starting from scratch. However, I hope to only have to do this once, so can't really invest in the purchase of a cultipacker.
 
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Amen brotha.
I just do deer plots. I plow and disc first then use a hand held broadcast seeder.
I used to use an old bed spring after broadcasting and drag that around.
Last fall I finally got an old cultipacker and used that last week for the first time.
My friend up there called me last night and told me my seed is already coming up.
I had restricted the flow rate on the seeder and used less seed than I normally would have - gambling that the cultipacker would increase germination rates. It looks like my plan will pay off and I will have a good plot this year with less seed.

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Amen brotha.
I just do deer plots. I plow and disc first then use a hand held broadcast seeder.
I used to use an old bed spring after broadcasting and drag that around.
Last fall I finally got an old cultipacker and used that last week for the first time.
My friend up there called me last night and told me my seed is already coming up.
I had restricted the flow rate on the seeder and used less seed than I normally would have - gambling that the cultipacker would increase germination rates. It looks like my plan will pay off and I will have a good plot this year with less seed.

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Is that a Dunham? I've seen a couple of those double-roller cultipackers come up for sale locally, how do you like it? I'm shopping for one.
 
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Is that a Dunham? I've seen a couple of those double-roller cultipackers come up for sale locally, how do you like it? I'm shopping for one.

It works good. I had to fix one of the bearings on it. Kind of did a schlock job but it should last for years as they turn over real slow and I don't use it a lot.
I also had to braze up one cast iron end frame which was cracked.
I looked for a long time before I found one that was reasonably priced.
You can kinda see the crack in the first photo.

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what is the diameter of you roll homemade. i need to build one with a very heavy 6'' pipe that i have would it work ?
 
 
 
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