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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    The biggest difference in a land plane and a box blade is the land plane won't carry as much dirt, gravel, rock, ect. It spreads is more evenly and fills smaller indentions like washboard areas better. The box blade will carry a lot of material until you adjust the height. Thus the land plane is easier to use with less experance and seat time. Most land planes come with rippers like the box blades and are a little larger and most are a little heaver. If I had it to do again I would have bought one instead of the box blade.

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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    I've used box blades, but never a land plane. I think of a land plane as an attachment more for loose gravel or stone roads/driveways and a box blade as more universal. Is my logic faulty? In other words, is the land plane the better tool for leveling a road of almost any kind of loose substrate. I suspect the land plane would not be a good tool for creating the road in the first place after trees and brush have been removed. Or am I wrong about that?

    It's hard to know about a tool you've never used, so feedback based on experience is appreciated.

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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    Quote Originally Posted by scesnick View Post
    can you use it to put a small cap on the road by tilting it?
    Do you mean a crown in the center of the road? Yes a land-plane grader blade can be tilted to make or improve the crown in a road.

    I maintain over 2 miles of roads at my place with 1/2 mile of that a shared road with 4 neighbors. I have an 1140lb rear blade, a 1000lb roll-over box blade, and a 1400lb grader blade. Our road is DG, (decomposed granite) and to the best of my knowledge was put in back in 1974. I have been maintaining the road for the past 10 years, have had the property for over 11 years. The shared part of the road needs to be graded 3-4 times a year to keep it in very good condition. When the ground is dry, it too is ROCK hard and my 1400lb grader blade will barely scrape up any material. But guess what, when it is dry and hard it does not need to be graded at all, so it is a moot point, because nothing needs to be done when the ground is rock hard.

    I maintain with the land-plane grader blade, build new roads with the rear blade and scrape weeds off with the box blade or move larger amounts of ground when building new roads. If the road needed more of a crown I would most likely use the rear blade just because I could do it with one pass in each direction versus several passes with the land-plane grader blade.
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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimrs View Post
    The biggest difference in a land plane and a box blade is the land plane won't carry as much dirt, gravel, rock, ect. It spreads is more evenly and fills smaller indentions like washboard areas better. The box blade will carry a lot of material until you adjust the height. Thus the land plane is easier to use with less experance and seat time. Most land planes come with rippers like the box blades and are a little larger and most are a little heaver. If I had it to do again I would have bought one instead of the box blade.
    When the ground is damp, I can move way more material with my land-plane grader blade than with my box blade, both are 7' wide. The sides are 8' long and 2' tall. In the picture there is 50+ cubic feet of dirt being moved where as my box blade would be pretty much maxed out with about 30-35 cubic feet. This would not hold true for moving rock-pea gravel though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scesnick View Post
    SO then what will a grading blade do that a regular box blade can not?
    1) See the long skids along the sides of the grading scraper? They're the main difference - They help the grading scraper sort of glide atop the terrain, with minimal, controlled digging/ scraping by the blades, as opposed to a box blade which can dig a lot, gouge, etc. & will tend to actually worsen the road surface if you don't manually adjust it depending on whether your tractor is in a dip or on a rise.

    2) The grading scraper has 2 blades instead of 1. This enables material to flow up & over the first blade for smooth leveling distribution, & then again over the 2nd blade for more of the same. A grading scraper with 1 blade would still be pretty darn good, much better than a box blade for road grading; A 2nd blade is that much better.

    3) The grading scraper's blades are slightly angled so material is directed toward the road center for creating/ maintaining a crown. They also help ease washboarding because any washboarding/ rippling that occurs should, for a while anyway, not be directly perpendicular to the roadway, meaning a car's wheels don't hit the little ripples at the same time, which is the worst case scenario for washboard effect. Compare to going over a speed bump straight on vs slightly at an angle, A slight angle can make a speed bump much less severe/ jarring.

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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    Quote Originally Posted by scesnick View Post
    can you use it to put a small cap on the road by tilting it?
    Yes!

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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    Quote Originally Posted by cttractor View Post
    I've used box blades, but never a land plane. I think of a land plane as an attachment more for loose gravel or stone roads/driveways and a box blade as more universal. Is my logic faulty? In other words, is the land plane the better tool for leveling a road of almost any kind of loose substrate. I suspect the land plane would not be a good tool for creating the road in the first place after trees and brush have been removed. Or am I wrong about that?

    It's hard to know about a tool you've never used, so feedback based on experience is appreciated.
    Here is my . When working on a road or building a road that is made of natural materials that need to be graded and as you mentioned, is cleared of trees, brush, rocks, roots etc. a LPGB (land-plane grader blade) would be easier and better in the long run than a box blade. LPGBs are simply a great implement to have when it comes to roads. I personally use either my dozer or my rear blade when building new roads. But If I didn't have either of those, I think that there is a good chance that I would use my LPGB before my box blade. Now of course there are conditions that the box blade would be the better implement for the job, but in general I believe that a LPGB would be the overall better implement to have when it comes to roads and driveways.

    I am fairly sure that you would find that the people who have LPGBs have all but forgotten about their box blades when it comes to their roads and driveways.

    I don't want people to get me wrong about box blades or implements in general. It's just that some implements are better at certain things than others. Even though there are different implements that will accomplish the same end result, that does not mean that they get that same result as good, as fast or as easy as a more specialized implement.
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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    I have a Cammond Grading Scraper that does a wonderful job on my road. The thing I have noticed is that the "churn" between the two cutting blades tends to leave the larger gravel nearer the top and the fines further down. I would rather have a more evenly distributed fines and larger gravel (1.25 inch minus.) Is there a technique that will help this? I wondered if my cutting edges need to be lowered or raised from where they are set (Adjustable from 0-1 1/2" below side plates) in order to effect the distribution I want.
    Any ideas from you experts?
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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trovenn Forestry View Post
    I have a Cammond Grading Scraper that does a wonderful job on my road. The thing I have noticed is that the "churn" between the two cutting blades tends to leave the larger gravel nearer the top and the fines further down. I would rather have a more evenly distributed fines and larger gravel (1.25 inch minus.) Is there a technique that will help this? I wondered if my cutting edges need to be lowered or raised from where they are set (Adjustable from 0-1 1/2" below side plates) in order to effect the distribution I want.
    I don't know if the depth of the cutting edges will help out with that or not. I suppose it should just because the deeper the cut, the more fines you would have and a better chance for the bigger stuff to get to the bottom. Only one way to find out for sure, lower those cutting edges and try it out.

    Please let us know how it works out for you and good luck.
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    Default Re: How does a FEL rate for grading a driveway?

    Quote Originally Posted by scesnick View Post
    How does that work with a more packed road surface? My road is made up of very packed crusher run. It is hard as a rock. The only way I have found that works at all is to rip it up with the teeth of the box scraper and then smooth it out.
    That is what we call 3/4" stamat ( or Stay-Mat ) in the picture. 3/4" and smaller crushed rock with plenty of fines. Some clay is added for a binding agent. Packs very hard. Harder than the CR we have here. As you can see the grader works very good but it is also pretty heavy for its width which is a necessity.
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