Front-End Loader Worst things to do to a FEL

[SPYDERLK]

Wouldn't loader front tires be as common as front weights? I don't use either.

Loading the front tires will be better than front weight because tire ballast is lower and not ahead of the axle as most weights are. Low slung weight at the front is fine as long as it is not ahead of the axle where it would subtract from rear weight and therefore stability. The weight in your rears is your real friend, and if loader equipped, an additional counterweight implement around twice as heavy as the bucket. A low hanging bushog is ideal.
larry

 

[LD1]

Loading the front tires will be better than front weight because tire ballast is lower and not ahead of the axle as most weights are. Low slung weight at the front is fine as long as it is not ahead of the axle where it would subtract from rear weight and therefore stability. The weight in your rears is your real friend, and if loader equipped, an additional counterweight implement around twice as heavy as the bucket. A low hanging bushog is ideal.
larry

Not to mention that ballast in the front tires or on the front wheels doesnt isnt felt by the axle

 

[IslandTractor]

I was thinking of wheel weights, not front weights. Front weight is typically centered so would. It help with rollover. Wheel weights have the same advantage as loaded tires but are removable.

 

[RoyJackson]

A low hanging bushog is ideal.
larry

My preference is a ballast box...same weight, lot less length.

 

[IslandTractor]

My preference is a ballast box...same weight, lot less length.

Seems to me we are talking about three different types of ballast here:

1) counter ballast for the FEL
2) ballast to increase traction
3) ballast to increase roll resistance

Wheel weight (loaded tires or wheel weights)in the rear is for#1, #2 and #3,
Wheel weight in the front for #2 and #3
Ballast box for #1 and #2
Front weights for #2

 

[Don87]

Seems to me we are talking about three different types of ballast here:
1) counter ballast for the FEL
2) ballast to increase traction
3) ballast to increase roll resistance

Wheel weight (loaded tires or wheel weights)in the rear is for#1, #2 and #3,
Wheel weight in the front for #2 and #3
Ballast box for #1 and #2
Front weights for #2

You are, and I'm just sitting here reading:laughing::laughing:

 

[Gale Hawkins]

When pushing over a tree with the bucket at max height make sure you keep going foward as it starts to go over so it will not go sideways, grap the bucket and flip you like a pancake.

To help with rear traction (only kind I have) when working the FEL with a BH on the rear I sometimes grap a BH bucket full of as heavy of dirt that I can dig up fast.

If the FEL is leaning on a hillside and the FEL is carrying a heavy load (as low as possible AND a hoe is installed it can be swung to the high side if you are working in an open area.

 

[Don87]

When pushing over a tree with the bucket at max height make sure you keep going foward as it starts to go over so it will not go sideways, grap the bucket and flip you like a pancake.

To help with rear traction (only kind I have) when working the FEL with a BH on the rear I sometimes grap a BH bucket full of as heavy of dirt that I can dig up fast.

If the FEL is leaning on a hillside and the FEL is carrying a heavy load (as low as possible AND a hoe is installed it can be swung to the high side if you are working in an open area.

oh, geez.............now your really gonna confuse the issue...........as if the 853 styles of weights didn't already:laughing::laughing:

 

[Gale Hawkins]

One rule.

Don't do nothing risky.

 

[Ron JD670]

Seems to me we are talking about three different types of ballast here:

1) counter ballast for the FEL
2) ballast to increase traction
3) ballast to increase roll resistance

Wheel weight (loaded tires or wheel weights)in the rear is for#1, #2 and #3,
Wheel weight in the front for #2 and #3
Ballast box for #1 and #2
Front weights for #2

Well as a newbie on day two unloading that BS I realized I might be in trouble when through the seat I felt pressure in my right bun and less pressure on the left and kind of oscillation through the steering wheel as the BS swayed slightly. When the adrenaline started flowing and the flight or fight instinct started I fortunately made the right decision although I did ding up the BS. No time to think about #1#2or#3.
Sitting in my family room I'm making some drawings, following this forum, showing vector forces etc. The scary thing that the drawing can't show is how fast the reports say a roll over can happen. I do believe the idea that once you go past the point of no return the loaded wheels would contribute to the event.
Thanks again for the great discussion.