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  1. #241
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    JD2010, Kubota3450,2550, Mahindra 7520 w FEL w Skid Steer QC w/Tilt Tatch, & BH, BX1500

    Default Re: Worst things to do to a FEL

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron JD670 View Post
    Well as a newbie on day two unloading that BS I realized I might be in trouble when through the seat I felt pressure in my right bun and less pressure on the left and kind of oscillation through the steering wheel as the BS swayed slightly. When the adrenaline started flowing and the flight or fight instinct started I fortunately made the right decision although I did ding up the BS. No time to think about #1#2or#3.
    Sitting in my family room I'm making some drawings, following this forum, showing vector forces etc. The scary thing that the drawing can't show is how fast the reports say a roll over can happen. I do believe the idea that once you go past the point of no return the loaded wheels would contribute to the event.
    Thanks again for the great discussion.
    You were probably on level ground for this and would have been ok regardless ... assuming you were alert and also didnt make a major mistake. A common enuf major mistake is to have a truck drive out from under a load that you cant quite lift. That load suddenly is all borne by the tractor and can take the front to the ground with the rears high in the air. Big time bad. ... A lesser situation is to have the load lifted clear, but the rear start to raise as you back. This can be handled gracefully because it is usually the backward takeoff that completes the overbalance. -- Use idle speed and lowest gear. Back straight and very slowly. Stop and lower the load as soon as you clear. With the load at ground level the back up issue will ease.
    larry
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    JD2010, Kubota L3450/FEL w SK QC, L2550 w FEL
    Mahindra 7520 [Pinky] /FEL w Skid Steer QC/w Tilt Tatch & BH, BX1500 [Mighty Mouse]
    IH37 Baler, CCM165 Drum Mower, JD Rake
    JD 127 bushog, Flail, SK Tilt Tatch , KK tiller, Rhino rear blade, Post driver, post auger, chipper, pallet fork, Grapple/Loader Buddy, Homemade Splitter/DC Welder

  2. #242
    Super Star Member RoyJackson's Avatar
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    Default Re: Worst things to do to a FEL

    Quote Originally Posted by SPYDERLK View Post
    Use idle speed and lowest gear. Back straight and very slowly. Stop and lower the load as soon as you clear. With the load at ground level the back up issue will ease.
    larry
    Since Ron has a Deere 670, as long as he uses reverse, low range....engine RPM isn't critical. Reverse Low is just about a creeper gear.
    Roy Jackson

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  3. #243
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    Default Re: Worst things to do to a FEL

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyJackson View Post
    Since Ron has a Deere 670, as long as he uses reverse, low range....engine RPM isn't critical. Reverse Low is just about a creeper gear.
    Yeah. Wish the 7520 had a creeper. My min speed is about 0.7mph at lo idle. Slower than that its slip the clutch.
    larry
    This side of 40
    JD2010, Kubota L3450/FEL w SK QC, L2550 w FEL
    Mahindra 7520 [Pinky] /FEL w Skid Steer QC/w Tilt Tatch & BH, BX1500 [Mighty Mouse]
    IH37 Baler, CCM165 Drum Mower, JD Rake
    JD 127 bushog, Flail, SK Tilt Tatch , KK tiller, Rhino rear blade, Post driver, post auger, chipper, pallet fork, Grapple/Loader Buddy, Homemade Splitter/DC Welder

  4. #244
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    Default Re: Worst things to do to a FEL

    Quote Originally Posted by tcreeley View Post
    I used my bucket last fall to pull up steel fence posts- and to redrive them. Short piece of chain wrapped around post and hooked to bucket and lift.
    To drive it in- jam it in an inch or two in the ground and set the bucket on the top and lower the bucket. Beats a sledge hammer all out!
    Thanks for the info. You just saved me ton of work.

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    Default Re: Worst things to do to a FEL

    I hope using your FEL to lift your front wheels (buried to the axle) out of the mud and push your tractor back is not a bad thing.

    I swore I would not get stuck this year as I did last year but I did it again last weekend. I make one heck of a mess when I get stuck but at least I have the tool to fix it when it dries out.

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    Silver Member Ron JD670's Avatar
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    for Cristmas 2011 found used Joh Deere 670 w/ 40 hrs and options

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPYDERLK
    You were probably on level ground for this and would have been ok regardless ... assuming you were alert and also didnt make a major mistake. A common enuf major mistake is to have a truck drive out from under a load that you cant quite lift. That load suddenly is all borne by the tractor and can take the front to the ground with the rears high in the air. Big time bad. ... A lesser situation is to have the load lifted clear, but the rear start to raise as you back. This can be handled gracefully because it is usually the backward takeoff that completes the overbalance. -- Use idle speed and lowest gear. Back straight and very slowly. Stop and lower the load as soon as you clear. With the load at ground level the back up issue will ease.
    larry
    Thank you for the comments
    Unfortunately I was on a mild slope of soft gravel combined with turning and a high FEL with a load acting a bit like a pendulum. I had parked the trailer in such a place that I had to start turning just as I the BS cleared the the trailer. I was creeping, but, as I started to turn there was a feeling of floating I was feeling through my seat and the steering wheel. I did not have time to think about it at the time and was not going to do a do over to find out. I think one front wheel might have been trying to lift and the other front tire was kind if crawling in the soft soil as the BS swung slightly. At any rate I fortunately pushed the FEL control down and I felt the tractor settle on all four wheels. Had I parked the trailer where I could have just backed straight up I'm sure I would not have learned or come close to learning a lesson. I'm now trying to learn from the forum rather than my mistakes.
    Thanks again.
    Ron JD 670
    Found used JD670 with 40 hrs barned with FEL, 5' Rake, 7' Blade, 9" X 3' Rankin Auger.
    Have added Box Blade, RM, Forks, plus some blood sweat and tears.

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