Disc Harrow Alterations

[jenkinsph]

deere5105,
When you consider that while you may not penetrate the surface as far as you would like with the first pass recognize that you can make that trip across the field faster with less fuel. About three trips across your fields should give you some good results.

For the 22" blades I would go with the thickest blades without paying the exhorbitant amount. I would also go for maximum set in the front gang and slightly less in the rear. I would not bother with extra weight on the frame either. If the front gangs are almost touching each other the rear gangs should be about 15 to 18 inches apart, just a guess.

 

[deere5105]

Steve,
Sounds about right on the rear gangs. I think mine are somewhere around 8"-10" since I moved them in to get the outside dimension down to 8'. Below is what I put together by looking at AgriSupply.com:

1) 22" Notch x 4.0 mm, 1 1/8" = $20.42 FREE SHIPPING #38104. India
2) 22" Notch x 4.5 mm, 1 1/8" = $22.68 FREE SHIPPING #38095. India
3) 22" Notch x 5.0 mm, 1 1/8" = $23.89 FREE SHIPPING #40044. India
4) 22" Notch x 6.0 mm, 1 1/8" = $29.48 FREE SHIPPING #40046. India


Based on information above, looks like the best compromise would be #3 at 5.0 mm for the $23.89.

You also are accurate on the repeat passes. My goal is to get something heavy enough to go ahead and cut through any ground clutter on atleast the second trip. I have a feeling this unit will do it with the new blades and a little work on the 3 pt hitch.

 

[jenkinsph]

Sounds like a plan to me.:thumbsup: Are you going to disc it up before winter and let it lay fallow?

Might want to consider discing in some lime if you need it and give it time to react.

 

[deere5105]

The field recently turned under has not been utilized to grow a crop in quite some time. We have typically broken it up and spread wheat for hunting dove. We typically let it come up for the deer to eat. We have been planting one end in Rye Grass the past couple years also for the deer. We are considering planting Millet on this field next year for the dove.

Thanks again for all of the input and suggestions.

 

[F250DSLPWR]

You might consider welding a receiver hitch or metal loop onto the back of the frame. It is nice to disc and pull a drag harrow at the same time to level and break up any of the the clods and or pull a spreader with fertilizer around the first pass. Saves another trip.
For the blades you can just sharpen them with a grinder, even with those being worn down they will still work as long as you can get the depth you need. I do like the idea of going to bigger blades if they will fit. The cup on the blades are available in different amounts the more the cup the harder it will be to pull (scoops more dirt).

 

[deere5105]

You might consider welding a receiver hitch or metal loop onto the back of the frame. It is nice to disc and pull a drag harrow at the same time to level and break up any of the the clods and or pull a spreader with fertilizer around the first pass. Saves another trip.
For the blades you can just sharpen them with a grinder, even with those being worn down they will still work as long as you can get the depth you need. I do like the idea of going to bigger blades if they will fit. The cup on the blades are available in different amounts the more the cup the harder it will be to pull (scoops more dirt).

All good ideas. Most of the work I do is in smaller spaces with a lot of turns, food plots for deer. We have some bigger more open areas. We are contemplating trying to pick up a cultipacker for covering. As I was looking for a new disc I would have purchased the 22" blades. I see this as an opportunity to move up to the 22" since I would like to replace them anyway. I reasoned that since I saved by buying used versus new that I could justify putting a little into it to make it like I wanted. The unit I wound up with had a 4" x 4" frame which is what I wanted, but new was around $4500. Thanks for the ideas.

 

[HickoryNut]

I have about that same model Long disk that my dad bought new in 64, except mine has the hinged frame so you flop the back gangs up over the top. It came from the factory with 22 in 7 ga scalloped disks. I usually run it with less gang angle than you show but with one or two railroad track sections bolted to it, more cut less throw I guess.

 

[deere5105]

I have about that same model Long disk that my dad bought new in 64, except mine has the hinged frame so you flop the back gangs up over the top. It came from the factory with 22 in 7 ga scalloped disks. I usually run it with less gang angle than you show but with one or two railroad track sections bolted to it, more cut less throw I guess.

I tried to track down the manufacturer and found out they changed names once and then went out of business. I found W R Long in the same town and was able to speak to someone there that verified they were no longer in business. I would like to find out what the specifications were on this unit when it was new, but doubt I will be able to track that down. How did you determine this information on the unit you have?

 

[HickoryNut]

I know cause I replaced the first and only broken disk blade about ten years ago. I took one with me shopping and that was the closest match I found, although the scallops were not quite as deep on the new blade I bought. That is the only repair its ever had but then there are no rocks around here.

Very nice disk IMO. Glad you posted it, I had never seen another one like it before.

 

[deere5105]

Another disc question. I have searched and can not find where I saw it, but I believe I have seen comments regarding blades from India, 1070 Steel, .70 Carbon versus blades from Brazil, 1080 Steel, .80 Carbon and one being better than the other. I believe it was here on TBN but I have not been able to retrace the route to the thread. After a little quick measuring, I am concerned I may not be able to fit the 22" blades due to clearance at one location common on each gang. Further investigation will be required before deciding on 20" versus 22". Anyone have experience or input on the India blades versus Brazil blades. Information provided above comes from Agrisupply book.