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    Default Kubota Backhoe or Bradco Backhoe?

    I have a kubota MX5000 dt with Kubota front loader la-852. I want to buy the most backhoe that the tractor will handle. Kubota offers a 9 foot with pto pump. I recently learned of Bradco backhoes from a Kubota dealer in Dallas. Bradco specs blows away the Kubota backhoe, and uses tractor hydraulics, but I dont want to damage the tractor with too much hoe. Also some pictures of the Bradco backhoe looks thinner and not as meaty as the pictures of the Kubota. I would like to see in person both backhoes. Also heard that Bradco builds some of Kubota Backhoes and subframes. Advice and comments appreciated. I believe I read someone has a Bradco 611 on a Kubota 3710. Would like comments and advice before spending $$$$.$$ Also, my tractor hydraulics are rated at 9.1 gpm. Will this make the hoe too slow?

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    Default Re: Kubota Backhoe or Bradco Backhoe?

    KubotaPat,

    I don't know much about backhoes but I just came back from one of our local John Deere dealers and they had several of their 4X10 tractors setup with the Bradco Hoe's on them. In fact most of the tractors with Hoes had Bradco.

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    Default Re: Kubota Backhoe or Bradco Backhoe?

    Tdenny, How did these backhoes look? I've seen some brands that weren't as impressive as others. I can't seem to find a Bradco 609 or 511 to look at in person.

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    Default Re: Kubota Backhoe or Bradco Backhoe?

    KubotaPat: Don't know who makes the BH for your tractor, but I have operated a Bradco on a Mahindra (almost bought the tractor to get the hoe!) and ended up with a NH BH for a new TC40 mainly because of warranty issues. If the hoe causes a problem with the tractor (although your MX5000 is probably heavy duty enough not to worry about it) you could have a problem - I know of cases where tractors were split because of hoe stresses. If you buy a branded hoe (same "brand" as the tractor) they can't claim incompatibility.

    Also, Bradco makes subframes for 55 different tractor models so you can "take it with you" when/if you trade tractors - just get a new subframe to fit. The Bradco hoe is exellent (at least the one I operated) with smooth feathering, strength, good cushioning (hydraulic "bumpers" at the end of the swing) and so forth. Don't know who make the kubota hoe and havn't operated one so can't comment on that.

    I ended up buying a NH hoe for my TC40 not because I though it was a better hoe, but because of warranty issues. So . . . if your major concern is top of the line performance go with the Bradco, if it is compatibility/warranty go with the branded hoe.

    JEH

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    Default Re: Kubota Backhoe or Bradco Backhoe?

    Pat,

    Sorry for the delay was out of the "office" for a few days. The Bradco Hoes looked really nice - matched the tractors perfectly. But I couldn't tell you more than that. I would surmise that JD wouldn't put them on their units if they weren't pretty darn good though since they will be responsible for the warranty work. Again I will say that I am only a backhoe wanna be (I sure would love one) since there's no way in heck that the CFO will let me splurge for one.

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    Default Re: Kubota Backhoe or Bradco Backhoe?

    Thanks for the reply. Have pretty much decided to go for the Bradco 511. I talked to the reps at Bradco, and they didnt recomend the 611 for my MX5000dt. The bad news is that Bradco doesnt have a subframe made for this model yet [img]/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]...maybe in the Fall he said! Guess I'll keep dreaming a few more months

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    Default Re: Kubota Backhoe or Bradco Backhoe?

    I have a Mahindra 6000 and Bradco now makes a sub frame for the 511 hoe. Dealer brought it our, spent 30 min going over fundamental operations and how to take on and off. It took be 5 min the first time to put hoe on, and about 4 min to get it off. Very slick and easy. The hoe itself is great. It has a speed control to keep the speed calabrated to the operators capabilities. The first hour or two I had it turned all the way down. I now can operate it pretty good at about 1/3 open. I have 11 gpm on my tractor and hoe is hooked into tractor. Dealer recommended that if I am going to do alot of hoe work to get a pto pump due to heat up of oil. He has a contractor who is using one everyday and no problems even w/o pto pump. although he has one on order when available. I would recommed that you try the hoe on a tractor with 9gpm before you buy. There is another poster on this board that put a 511 on a smaller tractor with, I think about 8-9 gpm and is really unhappy with its performance. You also have to check not only on pto pump availability but alos sub frame. My 4wd 6000 with Great Bend Loader and Bradco 511 hoe (all painted red with Mahindra name on them designed to match the tractor) is one stout piece of equipment. I agree that it is better to get a hoe that has been approved and matched by the dealer. There is a tremedous amount of pressure between the end of that hoe and the tractor frame and your sitting right in the middle of it. Not a good place to be if something goes wrong, and just knowing the manufacture has speced it for your tractor makes me sit easier. I did alot of reasearch on Bradco Hoes and you can go back and do a search. Most will say Bradco is the best on the market. I now own one, used it, and can say I now know why. When it comes down to it, they really are not that much more money. And besides, you vary rarely see someone selling a backhoe used, which to me means people keep them forever, so why not spend a couple of extra skins and get the best. Hope this helps.

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