Hi all,
I know that there is a thread on flail mowers already and it is one of the longest one on the entire site. It appears that one becomes very loyal to their flail mower with just a few minutes of use. I am not trying to restart that very dense thread, but I was hoping for some insight as to a flail mower that I might be able to use myself.
I own a JD 2305 (thus, the handle) which has just 18 PTO HP. Given the ability of the 2305/LX4 to absolutely shred to pieces anything in its path, I have to wonder if it isn't powerful enough to run a flail mower. When I use the LX4 I cut tall grass, weeds, woody type weeds, vines, and as of lately, even some trees as I am trying to clear up my 3 acres of woods that were decimated by sustained winds of over 100 mph on May 8, 2009.
That particular storm was one of the most intense I have ever seen, and some locally have even termed it an "inland hurricane" as it actually had an eye wall, two episodes of storms blowing in opposite directions and a serenely calm 1/2 hour rest in between eye walls--just like in a hurricane. Of course it was not actually a hurricane, but the damage was absolutely intense and my woods seemed to take a direct hit. I estimate that I lost 20-25 large, mature trees. without those, the underbrush has shot up like a rocket and the whole area is almost impassible even if one is just trying to walk through. I have never seen vegetation so dense and on the rare occurrence when I have gotten a view over the underbrush, the area looks like Vietnam Jungle.
I have started to finally clear some of the brush with the LX4. Don't get me wrong, that machine is a beast in those woods and I have yet to see the vegetation that can stop it. Of course, I am not trying to take on hickory or oak trees, but sapling, especially those of fast-growing, soft-wood type are no match for the blades of my LX4. The problem I have is maneuverability. From rear wheel to bucket, I am operating a machine over 20 feet long. In those woods, with that kind of length, even the few trees left standing can make turning a real niucance. I also don't want to hit some piece of hidden vegetation that might take its revenge on me. Worst of all, I could slide and get stuck, being unable to maneuver my entire machine back out the same way it got in.
I would think that a flail mower would be the ideal piece of equipment for the area. It would be MUCH shorter and more maneuverable than the LX4. I would think that so long as I am going slow it would eat the vegetation like candy and my understanding is that it is not going to be harmed by those hidden objects (like a large piece of limestone I luckly missed while mowing--I literally mowed right past it and was thankful the blades did not make contact).
In addition to clearing brush/woods I need to maintain a couple thousand feet of fenceline, maintain trails, occasionally mow tall grass and generally maintain several acres of tall grassland. Is the flail mower the tool for me? I will try to summerize my thoughts as follows:
1) Is there a flail mower out there that I can safely operate with my JD2305 (18 PTO)?
2) Can any of these be offset/adjustable for mowing under dense brush?
3) Can a flail mower chew up vegetation like my LX4 does?
4) I have read a little about BEFCO flail mowers. They claim to have some flail mowers that operate in my HP range. Has anyone out there used BEFCO equipment and flails in particular? Are they a quality unit that I will not regret later?
5) Are there any other brands out there that are worth looking at that are reasonably priced?
6) As far as mowing width, I would not buy less that 48 cutting inches--That barely exceeds the width of my 2305 now. Ideally I think I would like a 60 cutting inch unit. Would that work with my HP range?
7) At present, when I am not clearing vegetation with my LX4 I am mowing our 3/4 acre lawn with a LandPride RFM 60. The LandPride is a really nice unit and I have never been anything but thrilled by its performance. It leaves a VERY nice finish and I can mow at racecar speeds when I have a nice long shot. I have no problem with either mower, but switching is a pain slightly aleviated withh a Pat's Easy Change. Can the same flail that roars through the wilderness leave a beautiful, clean, even cut that could be compared to a golf corse (in the front yard at least? The back is still recovering 3 years after the storm--long stroy).
8) Final question: Am I being at all realistic with all the info that I have thrown out there or is a flail really that good? Can it be both my rough cutter, my finish mower, mow quickly, and do it all with my 18 ponies?
Thanks for taking the time to read this and responding. I sure appreciate reading these posts and I hope to glean some knowledge, which is after all, what this internet community is about.
Thanks in advance
SI2305
JD 2305
200CX, LX4, 60" Grader blade, 60" LandPride finish mower that replaced our old lawn mower, middlebuster, home made grass rake for long field grass collection, and now a specialized trailer to move heavy logs
I know that there is a thread on flail mowers already and it is one of the longest one on the entire site. It appears that one becomes very loyal to their flail mower with just a few minutes of use. I am not trying to restart that very dense thread, but I was hoping for some insight as to a flail mower that I might be able to use myself.
I own a JD 2305 (thus, the handle) which has just 18 PTO HP. Given the ability of the 2305/LX4 to absolutely shred to pieces anything in its path, I have to wonder if it isn't powerful enough to run a flail mower. When I use the LX4 I cut tall grass, weeds, woody type weeds, vines, and as of lately, even some trees as I am trying to clear up my 3 acres of woods that were decimated by sustained winds of over 100 mph on May 8, 2009.
That particular storm was one of the most intense I have ever seen, and some locally have even termed it an "inland hurricane" as it actually had an eye wall, two episodes of storms blowing in opposite directions and a serenely calm 1/2 hour rest in between eye walls--just like in a hurricane. Of course it was not actually a hurricane, but the damage was absolutely intense and my woods seemed to take a direct hit. I estimate that I lost 20-25 large, mature trees. without those, the underbrush has shot up like a rocket and the whole area is almost impassible even if one is just trying to walk through. I have never seen vegetation so dense and on the rare occurrence when I have gotten a view over the underbrush, the area looks like Vietnam Jungle.
I have started to finally clear some of the brush with the LX4. Don't get me wrong, that machine is a beast in those woods and I have yet to see the vegetation that can stop it. Of course, I am not trying to take on hickory or oak trees, but sapling, especially those of fast-growing, soft-wood type are no match for the blades of my LX4. The problem I have is maneuverability. From rear wheel to bucket, I am operating a machine over 20 feet long. In those woods, with that kind of length, even the few trees left standing can make turning a real niucance. I also don't want to hit some piece of hidden vegetation that might take its revenge on me. Worst of all, I could slide and get stuck, being unable to maneuver my entire machine back out the same way it got in.
I would think that a flail mower would be the ideal piece of equipment for the area. It would be MUCH shorter and more maneuverable than the LX4. I would think that so long as I am going slow it would eat the vegetation like candy and my understanding is that it is not going to be harmed by those hidden objects (like a large piece of limestone I luckly missed while mowing--I literally mowed right past it and was thankful the blades did not make contact).
In addition to clearing brush/woods I need to maintain a couple thousand feet of fenceline, maintain trails, occasionally mow tall grass and generally maintain several acres of tall grassland. Is the flail mower the tool for me? I will try to summerize my thoughts as follows:
1) Is there a flail mower out there that I can safely operate with my JD2305 (18 PTO)?
2) Can any of these be offset/adjustable for mowing under dense brush?
3) Can a flail mower chew up vegetation like my LX4 does?
4) I have read a little about BEFCO flail mowers. They claim to have some flail mowers that operate in my HP range. Has anyone out there used BEFCO equipment and flails in particular? Are they a quality unit that I will not regret later?
5) Are there any other brands out there that are worth looking at that are reasonably priced?
6) As far as mowing width, I would not buy less that 48 cutting inches--That barely exceeds the width of my 2305 now. Ideally I think I would like a 60 cutting inch unit. Would that work with my HP range?
7) At present, when I am not clearing vegetation with my LX4 I am mowing our 3/4 acre lawn with a LandPride RFM 60. The LandPride is a really nice unit and I have never been anything but thrilled by its performance. It leaves a VERY nice finish and I can mow at racecar speeds when I have a nice long shot. I have no problem with either mower, but switching is a pain slightly aleviated withh a Pat's Easy Change. Can the same flail that roars through the wilderness leave a beautiful, clean, even cut that could be compared to a golf corse (in the front yard at least? The back is still recovering 3 years after the storm--long stroy).
8) Final question: Am I being at all realistic with all the info that I have thrown out there or is a flail really that good? Can it be both my rough cutter, my finish mower, mow quickly, and do it all with my 18 ponies?
Thanks for taking the time to read this and responding. I sure appreciate reading these posts and I hope to glean some knowledge, which is after all, what this internet community is about.
Thanks in advance
SI2305
JD 2305
200CX, LX4, 60" Grader blade, 60" LandPride finish mower that replaced our old lawn mower, middlebuster, home made grass rake for long field grass collection, and now a specialized trailer to move heavy logs