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  1. #1

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    Southern Illinois - Union County
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    BX1800

    Default review of KK XB cutter

    My rotary cutter arrived after a 4 week wait. Bought it at Orchslen - Ordered it at their regular price of $549. When it didn't arrive as expected the manager gave me 15% off it I would wait another week or two. I did and I am pleased at about 2 hours of use.

    I have a BX1800 and I have read/heard many things about the suitability of various cuttersand ordered the XB model because it was made for subcompacts. I never saw one until mine arrived. Hope to provide someone else with first hand information to help them in their decision making process.

    Color is definitely <font color="orange"> </font> [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] with black lettering - paint job is good, not great but doesn't matter for the use its gets. Overall fit is good, better than what I had expected based upon what I have heard about KK.

    Assembling the arms and braces was no problem, neither was connecting the yoke to the tractor PTO. Attaching the yoke to the gearbox shaft was more of a chore, probably due to my inexperience. First of all, there are no detailed instructsion other than to "assemble". So after about 5 minutes of puzzlement I determined that the snap ring must be removed before the yoke would slide on the shaft. This snap ring in not mentioned in the assemble instructions but I presume it is to be reinstalled after the yoke in slid onto the shaft. My presumption is that the snap ring will somehow limit the damage if the shear pin is sheared. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] The next problem (minor) was to get the paint removed from the gearbox shaft. Sandpaper took care of that. Oh, forgot to mention that there isno hacksaw needed - the length is correct [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]!
    The real hassle was with the plastic shield that covered the yoke on the gearbox end. While I thought there must be a way to slide it back and out of the way I never could figure our the combination to get that done. So with great difficulty I was able to get the yoke slid on, the hole lined up and the shear pin inserted. Greased everthing and put oil in the gearbox (doesn't come with oil). How you ever "change" the oil is somewhat of a mystery, maybe you just pour new in forcing the old out - not worried about that right now. Anyway, I would estimate that I spent 3hours in the assembly and attaching process - only tools needed would be an adjustable wrench.

    Attaching to the 3PH was ralatively easy. The distance from one end of the lift pins to the other is one inch less than my other attachments, meaning that the 3PH lift arms on the BX will spread wide enough. No need to reverse the pins. However after attaching and driving around the yard just raising and lowering the cutter, I decided to reverse both lift pins and reattach. I didn't like the way the 3 point arms were "binding" when raised all the way. Works much smoother for now. I might add that long ago I drilled new holes in the lift arms on the BX to get the implements higher off the ground. Also adjusted and readjusted the top link several times to suite my satisfaction.

    Okay, now I am ready for the smoke test. All went well. I now have used it a couple of hours. Mostly on briars, weeds, and saplings of 3/4" or less. I have my FEL on for counter balance, (I've only taken it off once in two years just to see how easy/difficult the job would be).

    The rear of the kutter looks like a finish mower, two tail wheels and there is no opening for discharge. The front of the kutter has a rubber guard. Probably won't last long but easily replaced. Easy to adjust the tail wheels for mowing height (2" - 6"). Position control on the BX would be nice.

    So far I would say I am satisfied. This is my first rotary cutter so I have nothing to compare it to. I will post a few pictures next week, need to reload the software on my computer. I will be happy to answer questions. This forum has provided me with a great deal of extremely valuable information. Thanks to all of you.

    Gerry

  2. #2

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    Capital District, Upstate New York
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    Satoh S650G, MF135, MF165, JD5205

    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    Hi Gerry,

    Congrats on your XB rotary cutter… [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    Dirt and moisture (combined and left unaddressed = corrosion) are the worst enemies of your deck… if you take care of them… it should last you a long time…

    <font color="blue">…My presumption is that the snap ring will somehow limit the damage if the shear pin is sheared…</font>

    The snap ring will prevent the “yoke assembly” PTO shaft from “sliding” forward and off the gearbox smooth spline when the shearpin is sheared, while it rotates @ 540 rpm…

    <font color="blue">…How you ever "change" the oil is somewhat of a mystery…</font>

    You don’t…

    You just keep checking periodically the gearbox oil level and add accordingly, mostly losses will occur from use, as the gearbox heats up (normal during cutting) and the gearbox oil is dissipated…

    Don’t overfill the gearbox, always leave room for expansion (from the heat process), overfilling will cause seal damage and the leaks begin… (or worse, cause the gearbox casting assembly to crack)

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    Kioti DK 35

    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    Nothing wrong with King Kutter.
    That is what all my attachments are and they work just FINE !!

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    Kubota GL3430 HST

    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    I also used my 48" kk cutter today for the first time. It exceeded my expectations by a mile. Whacked small trees an 1-1/2" with very little bogging down. I am welding up a chain guard for it now. After watching chunks of trees flying everywhere (a couple at me), it's a nesessity.

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    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    I don’ t want to throw cold water on everyones good experience with KK but I have had a bad experience with my KK XB Middlebuster/sub-soiler.

    The finish is terrible, bad paint runs and rust
    Poor weld joints

    Today I went to use the sub-soiler for the first time.

    I took the middlebuster blade off and tried to install the sub-soiler blade. The sub-soiler blade cannot be installed without modification and additional hardware.
    The mounting bolts are the wrong size and the wrong type. They supply 6 X 7/16 inch carriage bolts and you need 4 X 1/2 inch hex bolts.
    There is no way of attaching the sub-soiler blade without fabricating backing plates (which I did).
    The clevis where the toplink attaches is too narrow. KK made the clevis opening 1.5 inches (the width of the main beam) and the BX toplink is 1 and 5/8 inches. (design error). I used a 6 foot digging bar to spread the clevis open further.
    To make matters worse they applied the KK XB logos upside down!

    I’ve attached a picture but it does not show all of the defects. If you look closely you can see that the top link will not fit in the clevis. I should have taken a close-up of that area.

    I finally got it installed and it worked fine but it has been a frustrating experience. I plan to call KK on Tuesday. I sent them an email regarding the paint, rust and welds but they never responded.

    John

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    Near Buffalo, NY
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    Kubota GL3430 HST

    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    Funny you should bring up kk's middle buster. I have been using their full size middle buster for digging trenches and a ditch. I have used 3 different "blades" that all fit fine without any mods. Yes, the paint job is poor. I own 4 kk implements and have repainted all of them before the first use. I figure a 3 dollar can of paint is still cheaper than buying a bigger name brand. I do blame some of their paint and rust problems on the way TSC handles and stores them (outside) before they are sold.
    I can't comment on their XB line as I have no experience with them.

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    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    I also have a KK carryall that I like. As you say the paint job is nothing to write home about but I am satisfied with the construction product.

    The XB middlebuster is another story. If I were KK I would be embarrassed to deliver a product like that. I plan to call them tomorrow and talk with them. I could return it but it works and I need it to lay some electrical lines (which I started this weekend). I originally ordered one from TSC in February and they were never able to get one for me. They called me twice to tell me it was in and both time it was the full sized cat1 unit rather than the XB. TSC probably ordered it wrong. I ordered it through a tractor dealer and he had it in two weeks.

    The dealer did tell me that he has complained to KK about the finish on their products but they never resolve the problem. He said that their biggest problem is that they don't palletize anything. They just pile all of the implements on top of each other in the back of a tractor trailer and deliver it to the dealer. He said that it is a "bear" to unload because everything is all tangled and interlocked. The poor packing takes a toll on the finish of the implements. That is why there are so many gouges in the paint. I suspect that my XB middlebuster was at the bottom of the heap on the delivery truck. That explains why there are so many gouges and why the threads were smashed on the mounting pins; but it does not explain all of the other issues.

    John

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    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    Thanks, I am going to pick one up for my kubota B7800 soon. Although I am not rich I figure for $549 it would be worth a try. I don't care how it looks only how it performs. Thanks for the info on assembly I will refer to your experience when it is my turn.

    Also will pick up some paint - thanks for the tip.

    LOL, Frank

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    BX1800

    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    <font color="orange"> </font> A picture of the KK XB rotary cutter <font color="orange"> </font>
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    North Central Pennsylvania
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    JD 2520

    Default Re: review of KK XB cutter

    Thanks for the photo. Looks like a nice fit for the machine.
    I am really interested in one of these, but can't seem to find them anywhere.
    Anyone know of where there might be on in Northern Pennsylvania or Southern New York (even eastern Ohio)?

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