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    Quote Originally Posted by jimgerken
    I asked this question a couple years ago. Got almost the same answers. Eventually I bought a 3ph version because I wanted less small engines around, based on all the issues with Ethanol. Also, the tractor has lower sound output and exhaust is further away from the splitting area compared to standing over a small gas engine. Also, raising and lowering the 3ph has advantages, about the same as one that swivels from horizontal to vertical. But in the end, the tradeoff was that the 3ph versions are slower because the tractor does not have a 2-speed pump. So, I went with a bidirectional splitter, 3ph mounted. Bi-directionals split in both directions, so are quite fast. Also, it waits patiently even in years I don't need to use it. No draining old gas, no oil changes, no loud engine droning away. Here is a pretty good thread on the subject:
    http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/a...-splitter.html
    Good luck on your decision.
    As I already posted, we got a Troy-Bilt from Lowes last year.

    What I didn't post was the fact that I added a $20 option in the form of a HF trailer jack w/ wheel, in place of the swing down leg that came on the splitter.

    It allows easier manual movement of the splitter, and I have the ability to adjust the splitter to terrain and to my height for optimum comfort...

    The Honda engine runs about as quietly as my diesel tractor runs at the RPMs I'd need to run a 3_pt splitter, and the exhaust is pointed down and away from any place you could operate the splitter from, with no fumes getting anywhere near me...

    And it splits as fast as I can load it even only splitting in one direction.

    Finally, there hasn't been a year when I haven't needed my splitter, it started right up this summer despite ethanol, requires far less oil at each change than I'd need to change my tractor's oil (remember splitting adds hours to the larger DIESEL engine requiring more frequent oil changes, more expensive fuel and more HP) than the 6-8 HP needed to run my 26 ton splitter....
    FWIW,
    Thomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhysAssist View Post
    As I already posted, we got a Troy-Bilt from Lowes last year.

    What I didn't post was the fact that I added a $20 option in the form of a HF trailer jack w/ wheel, in place of the swing down leg that came on the splitter.

    It allows easier manual movement of the splitter, and I have the ability to adjust the splitter to terrain and to my height for optimum comfort...

    The Honda engine runs about as quietly as my diesel tractor runs at the RPMs I'd need to run a 3_pt splitter, and the exhaust is pointed down and away from any place you could operate the splitter from, with no fumes getting anywhere near me...

    And it splits as fast as I can load it even only splitting in one direction.

    Finally, there hasn't been a year when I haven't needed my splitter, it started right up this summer despite ethanol, requires far less oil at each change than I'd need to change my tractor's oil (remember splitting adds hours to the larger DIESEL engine requiring more frequent oil changes, more expensive fuel and more HP) than the 6-8 HP needed to run my 26 ton splitter....
    FWIW,
    Thomas
    I have a the same engine on a pressure washer. It seems pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhysAssist View Post
    As I already posted, we got a Troy-Bilt from Lowes last year.

    What I didn't post was the fact that I added a $20 option in the form of a HF trailer jack w/ wheel, in place of the swing down leg that came on the splitter.

    It allows easier manual movement of the splitter, and I have the ability to adjust the splitter to terrain and to my height for optimum comfort...

    The Honda engine runs about as quietly as my diesel tractor runs at the RPMs I'd need to run a 3_pt splitter, and the exhaust is pointed down and away from any place you could operate the splitter from, with no fumes getting anywhere near me...

    And it splits as fast as I can load it even only splitting in one direction.

    Finally, there hasn't been a year when I haven't needed my splitter, it started right up this summer despite ethanol, requires far less oil at each change than I'd need to change my tractor's oil (remember splitting adds hours to the larger DIESEL engine requiring more frequent oil changes, more expensive fuel and more HP) than the 6-8 HP needed to run my 26 ton splitter....
    FWIW,
    Thomas
    agree

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    I prefer the 3-pt, vertical! I built this one for a 1958, JD-520, using the tractor hydraulics. Initial cost was $150. When I got my JD 790 CUT, I had to install a control valve on the splitter & long hoses to reach the loader bucket cylinder connections, adding another $100+ to the cost.

    As for speed of operation, no, it's not fast (but neither am I & I work alone), but it keeps up with me! ~~ grnspot
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    Honda makes a great engine, and that is a really good sized splitter. I think that they both have good points, and bad, and I am right down the middle. For me the 3 point works great, but I can also see the positive side to the stand alone. Thats actually a pretty good idea with the HF jack, and that might work well on the 3point as well, if you added three. Did you get the kind that rotates up, and locks in place? For the ethenol, in my gas engines, I use Star-Tron enzyme treatment, and its works so much better than stabil for me, and they sell it at Tractor Supply. I found it after I had to have a carb rebuilt on my snow blower when it wouldn't start in a storm with 20 inches of snow. A Branson Tractor dealer told me about it, and it is amazing stuff.


    Quote Originally Posted by PhysAssist View Post
    As I already posted, we got a Troy-Bilt from Lowes last year.

    What I didn't post was the fact that I added a $20 option in the form of a HF trailer jack w/ wheel, in place of the swing down leg that came on the splitter.

    It allows easier manual movement of the splitter, and I have the ability to adjust the splitter to terrain and to my height for optimum comfort...

    The Honda engine runs about as quietly as my diesel tractor runs at the RPMs I'd need to run a 3_pt splitter, and the exhaust is pointed down and away from any place you could operate the splitter from, with no fumes getting anywhere near me...

    And it splits as fast as I can load it even only splitting in one direction.

    Finally, there hasn't been a year when I haven't needed my splitter, it started right up this summer despite ethanol, requires far less oil at each change than I'd need to change my tractor's oil (remember splitting adds hours to the larger DIESEL engine requiring more frequent oil changes, more expensive fuel and more HP) than the 6-8 HP needed to run my 26 ton splitter....
    FWIW,
    Thomas
    Mitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHmitch View Post
    For the ethenol, in my gas engines, I use Star-Tron enzyme treatment, and its works so much better than stabil for me, and they sell it at Tractor Supply. I found it after I had to have a carb rebuilt on my snow blower when it wouldn't start in a storm with 20 inches of snow. A Branson Tractor dealer told me about it, and it is amazing stuff.
    I got a bottle of that to use in my cub cadet then I got rid of it and got the bx, I never used it. Next time I get some gas for the few little gas engines I have I am going to use it. Alot of places are selling it and dealers are recommending it. Lowes and Napa sell it to. They also have a diesel fuel treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHmitch
    Honda makes a great engine, and that is a really good sized splitter. I think that they both have good points, and bad, and I am right down the middle. For me the 3 point works great, but I can also see the positive side to the stand alone. Thats actually a pretty good idea with the HF jack, and that might work well on the 3point as well, if you added three. Did you get the kind that rotates up, and locks in place? For the ethenol, in my gas engines, I use Star-Tron enzyme treatment, and its works so much better than stabil for me, and they sell it at Tractor Supply. I found it after I had to have a carb rebuilt on my snow blower when it wouldn't start in a storm with 20 inches of snow. A Branson Tractor dealer told me about it, and it is amazing stuff.
    Yes, once it's on the hitch it swings up out of the way and lock there.

    I've been using stabil, but I will give the Star-Tron a try once We run out.

    The reason I bought the Troy-Bilt was that the chinese HF gas engine I put on our little Heath-Kit splitter died the previous winter due the same etoh issue, and my wife (financier) wqs done spending on it after having replaced hoses, pump and motor all the year prior.....

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    Default Re: 3PH log splitter or standalone?

    Yea, "Honda don'y build no junk" as a good friend of mine used to say. Only problem with them is they are jetted small at idle because they are so efficient and they are trying to meet emmisions standards, that the idle jet passage ends up freakin tiny. The smallest obstruction, buildup or impurity makes it impossible to get running and idle without some choke being applied. With these engines on ethanol fuel, in an intermittant useage like a generator or splitter or garden tiller, you will get really proficient at cleaning the idle jet.
    I have heard of Star-tron and rumor is, it is a great product. I have not had to try it yet, since my approach has been to move away from small gas engines and centralize my power source at the tractor engine as much as possible. That way, especially with the generator application where I don't have time to fiddle with idle jet cleaning when I need backup power, i hook up and spin it up with the tractor which will always start and has fuel and backup fuel (because it is my primary mover, and it is diesel so lower maintenance). Total combined trator-operating hours spent splitting and running the generator in the past year has been less than ten. Ten tractor hours, or even 30 tractor hours per year, is insignificant in the life of the tractor engine.

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    Default Re: 3PH log splitter or standalone?

    I ordered my tractor with power beyond, thinking that I might want a splitter, dump trailer, or some other hydraulic gizmo. Since then I've had two people offer to store their homemade 3pth splitters in MY back yard. One is an upright, the other horizontal. Neither one has been on my 3pth in years, but both get used every summer. I think the original owners have long since forgotten about them. One owner hires someone to do his wood, the other has bought a standalone.

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    Default Re: 3PH log splitter or standalone?

    Stand alone or 3 point hitch: An individual would have to consider their own individual situation. There are pros and cons for both types.
    Everything happens for a reason!!!!

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