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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    And how do they get the items they "copy"? It is usually an American or a European or someone from another country who ships it to them and says "Make this for me cheaper...." Not to say it is "good" or "bad," just don't always blame the Chinese. They are doing what we ask them to do.
    i don't think you read my post. I weasn't blaming the chinese. if you'd have read it.. you just AGREED with me.

    they sell us what we want to buy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundguy View Post
    i don't think you read my post. I weasn't blaming the chinese. if you'd have read it.. you just AGREED with me.

    they sell us what we want to buy...
    I did read it and I am agreeing with you. Just adding on to what you said.

    I probably should have said..."Not to say it is "good" or "bad," it would be nice if others did not always blame the Chinese. They are doing what we ask them to do."
    Last edited by Calvin; 12-01-2012 at 02:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    I did read it and I am agreeing with you. Just adding on to what you said.
    was hard to tell reading the posts. flat discussion media error

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    It's interesting that people are (seemingly) not mentioning that some of the highest quality products in the consumer market are also coming out exclusively from China. I-pad, I-phone, I-pod, etc. Apple is getting stuff with a rabid fan base that is super happy with them!

    But if I have a choice between a China bearing and a made in USA bearing.....I go USA. Just say'n!

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    like I said... if you want hi q .. they will sell it.

    they are capable of making anything we want. junk or super hi tech...

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    Quote Originally Posted by john_bud View Post
    It's interesting that people are (seemingly) not mentioning that some of the highest quality products in the consumer market are also coming out exclusively from China. I-pad, I-phone, I-pod, etc. Apple is getting stuff with a rabid fan base that is super happy with them!

    But if I have a choice between a China bearing and a made in USA bearing.....I go USA. Just say'n!
    Yup. As are my Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones, HP Laptop, and a bunch of other stuff. Good point. Although I think technically Apple stuff is just assembled in China. Many parts are made elsewhere. I think <3% of the value of an iPhone is China content.

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    I have a 48" rough cut mower deck that has served its purpose. I've hit many a rock and 1"-2" saplings cut without too much trouble. For what I use it for I didn't want to spend big dollars on a U.S. made implement.

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    My experience in dealing with Chinese products mirrors what a lot on here have been saying...
    The industry that I grew up in, the furniture industry, has utilized Chinese manufacturers for the last 25 years or so...
    The most successful ones tightly control QC in those plants...
    The other importers/distributors initially had terrible experiences in QC of the merchandise shipped to the US...
    However, that has improved dramatically over the years as the Chinese have learned was it and what is not acceptable to the US consumer...
    Biggest issue with most manufacturing in China has to do with copyright issues but in furniture that is a moot point...
    I can design the most wonderful dining room or bedroom set in the world and anybody can copy the darn thing and change the hardware, glass, or finish...
    The product is differentiated enough from the original to not be an exact copy...
    We all get upset when US companies shut down and move overseas...
    Companies have always sought out competitive advantages...
    The textile industry moved from England to the Northeast to the South and then to China, South America, and the rest of the world...
    Other industries have done the same thing...
    Ironically, some of those industries, automotive for example, have set up new manufacturing plants here in the US...
    ie Toyota, Hyundai, Honda, Kia, Mercedes...
    One thing is constant...
    Change...
    And I will continue to buy the product that gives me the most value for my dollar just like the rest of Americans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Dave View Post
    My employer bought a pallet full of aluminum grain scoop shovels, made in China sticker on them, every one bent first time it was used. I took a handle off one for an old shovel, in a year all the sealer flaked off and handle twisted, Zero quality control, why would China alow this junk to leave there country, this is what gave them a bad name. I try not to by China products, but it is hard to find quality products. I think made in China products should have a land fill tax added to them, thats were most will be in a year or two.

    Dave

    Come on.....That would mean they have four of the most dreaded words in the USA today, "GOVERNMENT QUALITY CONTROL REGULATIONS.

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    30 years ago, this was a cliche "copy cats Japans, poor quality Japan-mades, etc." Now, look at where Japan tech is at. Same things have been being said about China too. But, we miss their realities of China today.

    They are 1/5 of world population.
    They are biggest invester on "manufacturing industry" which has been considered by West as heavy/tiring labor industry. Only West? No, just look at Istanbul, 15 million population, 1/5th of Turkey. Till 30 years ago, there were many manufacturing companies there in Istanbul. Now, all of those manufacturers moved to other parts of Turkey, Anatolia, out of Istanbul the city where millions of people do office works, trades, etc, that's, service works only. This that happened in the country Turkey scale is similar to what happened in global scale. Western world have been doing office, trade, service works, etc since 1980s and manufacturing industry works from all over the world have moved to China. Even many Turkish companies I know of have their own factories in China and doing assembly works here in Turkey and selling their products in Europe as Made in Turkey. I know of some world top companies have been doing similar things. Eg, those of you who are in the field of milling industry may know of biggest milling mach company in the world, Buhler Group who leads milling/grain handling/etc tech of the world for about 100 years now have their own factory in China too.

    So, China has become "world" in manufacturing industry where there are bads, goods, betters, bests. Maybe, 70% of products we use in daily life are products Made in China and this percentage is increasing.

    So, to use "Made in, say, Germany or USA or Sweden or Japan" to highlight the quality, like we use in old days, doesn't tell me much about the quality anymore. It is not "Made in WHERE" anymore, rather, "Made for WHO" tells more about the quality (as WHERE is only China nowadays.) As an example to "Made for WHO", I told in my previous post, I paid some more money for a bearing to a China Mfg and my bearing "Made for Nomad" was better than the Western or Turkish made, for still lower price than them.

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