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    Default Re: Towed Cultipacker Vs. 3-Pt. Lift Cultipacker - Advantages / Disadvantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Pioneer View Post
    Ken Sweet, can a double axle 8' Brillion be converted to a three point hitch - if so, picture, please - or have an axle with wheels mounted up top to flip over (too heavy?)

    PLUS, where do you get Brillion parts these days?

    Thanks.
    It is difficult to put a 3 point on a double because of the way they were engineered when built. If you have the Brillion part # we can get the part for you, if it has not been retired? Thanks, Ken
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    Shipping Example: Can ship 800 lbs from Ky. to Dallas for $165
    The Northeast shipping corridor is a little more expensive.

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    Default Re: Towed Cultipacker Vs. 3-Pt. Lift Cultipacker - Advantages / Disadvantages?

    Ken Sweet, what about mounting an axle/wheels on top to flip over? Thanks.
    LS U5030C w/FEL, Bush Hog 307, Modern 7' industrial grade box blade w/hydraulic rippers, Rhino SPHD PHD, 48" Wildkat grapple, 72" Ratchet Rake, 6' King Kutter II tiller, 10' International Disk with hydraulic lift, 7' Vulcan double axle cultipacker, 76" W.R. Long bucket tooth bar.

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    Default Re: Towed Cultipacker Vs. 3-Pt. Lift Cultipacker - Advantages / Disadvantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Pioneer View Post
    Ken Sweet, what about mounting an axle/wheels on top to flip over? Thanks.
    I have seen that done, however, the flip over is heavy. Ken Sweet
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    Shipping Example: Can ship 800 lbs from Ky. to Dallas for $165
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    Default Re: Towed Cultipacker Vs. 3-Pt. Lift Cultipacker - Advantages / Disadvantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Pioneer View Post
    Ken Sweet, can a double axle 8' Brillion be converted to a three point hitch - if so, picture, please - or have an axle with wheels mounted up top to flip over (too heavy?)

    PLUS, where do you get Brillion parts these days?

    Thanks.
    I'm not Ken but I know the answer. See the picture a few posts earlier #28-- and that's how you make it a 3-pt hitch. Cut the hitch off and build as shown. It'll be heavy so be able to lift it..

    Brillion parts are available from any dealer--and only any dealer--of their stuff. Go to their website and find something close to your model for the parts numbers. Yours will likely be under "archive". Some places sell over the net and prices vary.

    I'm pretty sure Ken Sweet is a dealer and better to do biz with someone like him that we already know.

    Just my two cents.
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    Default Re: Towed Cultipacker Vs. 3-Pt. Lift Cultipacker - Advantages / Disadvantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeff9366 View Post
    I am going to the Sunbelt Ag. Expo in Moultrie, Georgia October 16-17-18, 2012. I will be there one of the three days.

    At top of my shopping list is a CULTIPACKER.

    I am in North Florida. Sandy-Loam, only rocks soft limerock.

    My tractor is a Kubota B3300SU 33-hp / 1,800 pounds.
    O P - F O L L O W U P --> J A N U A R Y 2 0 1 3

    I did attend the Sunbelt Ag. Expo in October. I sought all Cultipackers and Rollers in the show. Of the Cultipackers those from Brillion and Everything Attachements were interesting.

    Brillion displayed huge Cultipackers, which Brillion chooses to market as "Pulverizers", for ag tractors. However, the salesman did discuss Brillion's compact tractor PP models in 5'-6'-7'-8' widths, in 3-Pt. or pull type. He put a Brillion catalog in my hand. The Brillion PP model, five feet wide, cost $2000-$2200 from a Florida dealer, depending on roller wheels selected.

    Everything Attachments displayed ETA 7' width / 3-Pt. Cultipacker. Looked solid. The 5' width, delivered to Florida, is $1400 / residential delivery.

    The 5' Brillion and 5' ETA equipments each weigh approximately 700 pounds. (Actual weight shown on freight manifest 722 pounds including pallet.)

    After mulling over thread comments for three months I decided I wanted a 5' X 3-Pt. Lift Cultipacker from Everything Attachments. A Brillion, the "classic" brand in Cultipackers, would have been nice but $600-800 + Florida Sales Tax premium? For rolling dirt? Would dirt appreciate the difference?

    Yellow Freight delivered 5' ETA Cultipacker today. I told the driver I had hoped Santa would bring the Cultipacker at Christmas.... but better late than never. He told me Santa Claus brought him a shining new Harley-Davidson for Christmas; SO THERE, CULTIPACKER MAN.

    Another post after I roll around the world.
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    Default Re: Towed Cultipacker Vs. 3-Pt. Lift Cultipacker - Advantages / Disadvantages?

    A few pictures from today, February 16, 2013.
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    Default Re: Towed Cultipacker Vs. 3-Pt. Lift Cultipacker - Advantages / Disadvantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by sixdogs View Post
    If the ground is soft, say tilled or whatever, a 3-pt packer will often leave tire tracks and tire impressions showing when done packing. With a pull-type packer you can see the bar marks from the tires but almost never the settled-in tire impressions. In other words, the pull type does a smoother job. I believe it's the weight transfer issue. Most often I'll use a pull type if there are not many obstacles to dodge and weave around.
    I have finished reading two informative tractor books, both about Harry Ferguson, the Anglo-Irishman who invented the 3-Pt. Hitch, (patented February 1926) Draft Control, Position Control and many implements:

    Harry Ferguson, Inventor & Pioneer by Colin Fraser

    The Ferguson Tractor Story by Stuart Gibbard

    From Gibbard: "The three-point linkage both pulled and carried the implement in work, transferring its weight onto the tractor's rear wheels. This meant Ferguson could build a lighter, more economical and cheaper machine, making his tractor more maneuverable and more versatile".

    "Another advantage of the Ferguson system was that the line of pull of the implement at its working depth extended through the converging links of the three-point hitch to a theroretical point just behind the tractor's front axle. This was known as the 'virtual hitch point' and meant that the natural foreces affecting the implement in work were converted into a strong forward and downward thrust that held the tractor's front wheels down".

    This explains why pulled Cultipackers do a marginally smoother job than 3-Pt. lift Cultipackers.
    More weight on the rollers.

    No tractor traction issues pulling a Cultipacker. The Cultipacker is just iron wheels, rolling.
    Last edited by jeff9366; 07-19-2013 at 11:44 PM.
    The word tractor was taken from Medieval Latin, being the agent noun of trahere "to pull, draw".

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