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    Default Re: Just picked up a Valby 3pt log grapple

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebrafive View Post
    As a non farmer, if I had to justify the equipment cost, fuel and my time I would NOT be able to have a tractor, equipment, or the fuel I use.
    Amen to that!
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    Default Re: Just picked up a Valby 3pt log grapple

    Quote Originally Posted by MossflowerWoods View Post
    Is $38/ton for pulp? Chipping saw? Saw Timber?

    You've got some big trees, and you should be getting premium $$ for the big ones...
    $38 is for saw timber. The guy at the scales comes out and looks it over carefully before writing up the ticket. I would imagine it would be lot less than $38/ton for pulp, but I'm not 100%.

    I'm overseeing the building of a house on this lot for my mother. It has to be ready for her to move into on May 1st, so the trees needs to get cleared asap. I'm meeting with the builder, his chief machine operator (who was a logger for 20 years), and another logger, all tomorrow morning to figure out who will be doing what in about a 1 acre rectangle where the house, driveway, yard and drain field will be located. They need to break ground 1st week of January to make the May 1st date, so hopefully we can work something out where all the trees within the rectangle gets cut and moved to the side in such a way that I can get to them and haul them off to the mill. In a perfect world they would already be topped and limbed, but that's probably wishful thinking...

    The builder owns all his own equipment, including a 24" chipper. What they normally do, is to use their excavator with a thumb to feed each tree whole into the chipper and its gone. And they charge $60/hour for the chipper and $90/hour for the excavator, plus $12/hour for the helper cutting down the trees. So instead of making a little money off the trees, I'd end up paying to have them removed. Of course they would get it done in a day or two instead of the several weeks it would take me to do it by myself.

    Should be in interesting meeting....

    I use Mid-Atlantic Tree Harvester's for my logging. They are a good bunch, clean and pay well and timely. Ask for Frankie Johnson... He is my guy, PM me and I'll give you his cell number...
    Thanks David. I'll keep that in mind if things don't work out in the morning. I might be slightly outside their service area, but maybe not.

    Peter
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    Default Re: Just picked up a Valby 3pt log grapple

    Cool thread, cool equipment. Keep the photos comming!

    Did your mom end up buying the grapples in return for you clearing her land? If she did that $50 an hour might hold true. After all, you'd still have the tractor/trailer anyway. That said, you can't put a price on the fun factor. I'd love to do what your doing.
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    So the deal I worked out with mom was that she would pay for the equipment up front and I would pay her back 50% of it by using it on her land. I normally charge her (and others) $50/hour for tractor work, so instead, I charge her $25/hour and the other $25/hour goes towards paying off my 50% of the equipment cost. I think that's a fair deal for everyone, and it keeps it all in the family so to speak. I still have to cover fuel, maintenance and spare parts.

    Today I hauled the largest load yet:



    The wood on the trailer came to 12,780 lbs!



    Here's a pic from the yard, you can see my little "short load" pile next to grapple.

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    Default Re: Just picked up a Valby 3pt log grapple

    Glad your happy with the grapple! That is a nice looking setup there, I think you can just about say you have every attachment you need now

    You sure are adding a lot of implements to the stable, I'm extremely jealous The only think I could see you really benefiting from now, that you don't have, is a PTO powered mulcher. What dya say? Bull Hog (PTO) - Fecon
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    Default Re: Just picked up a Valby 3pt log grapple

    Peter,
    Not only are you profiting a little extra play money from all the (fun) work your doing, but your also saving a ton of money from what you would otherwise have to pay others to do. I think some people are looking at it like, you either make $38 a ton, or you do nothing. That's obviously not an option to do nothing, as the trees have to be gone one way or another. I'd be doing the exact same thing as you, its not like your taking on this job to make a living, your doing it to help your mother.
    Also, all those trees would otherwise be chipped into shreds, those are much too nice of sawlogs to be chipped. I know we talked about it on my chipper thread but I'm really glad to see you decided to haul the logs to the mill. You never know, you may be buying that same lumber when it comes time to build your mothers house, and similarly, others on this forum in your area may be buying that very same lumber for any projects they have going on. It's nice to see the forest resources used for something very useful!
    (not to mention, $50 an hour is nothing to shake a stick at)
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    Default Re: Just picked up a Valby 3pt log grapple

    Thanks Piston! Yes, I'm really enjoying the work. I took another load to the mill this morning in the sleet and snow we have. I didn't realize they were technically closed until January 2nd. But I was able to get some guy over the man the scale for me. It was my biggest haul yet and pushing what I would consider safe, even though it's only 10 miles to the lumber yard. The ice and sleet made today's run extra challenging!



    I had to use 4 wheel drive to get around in the yard today. The guy running the grapple was not in today, so another fellow using a wheeled loader picked up my entire load in a single scoop!

    I'm actually starting to make some headway with clearing the trees on the lot. Here's a shot from when I got home from the yard:



    I got another load ready to go, but I'll wait to load it up until the weather breaks and they re-open. Here's a shot from a few days ago when I got the dump truck stuck in the pile of chips I'm creating.



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    Default Re: Just picked up a Valby 3pt log grapple

    Great pictures! Pretty funny about the truck stuck in the chips

    I'm glad your really getting some use out of that chipper too. What made you decide on the Valby grapple over the others? I know you had been looking into a few different models.
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    Default Re: Just picked up a Valby 3pt log grapple

    Quote Originally Posted by Piston View Post
    I'm glad your really getting some use out of that chipper too. What made you decide on the Valby grapple over the others? I know you had been looking into a few different models.
    Well, I had a pretty significant credit from when the dealer fixed my cab, and he is a Valby dealer. I was looking at a less expensive cat 1 model, but after seeing it in person at tsc, I just didn't think it would be up to the task. It also had no way to rotate or swing the grapple itself. There were also other alternatives, but they cost several thousand more list than the model I ended up with. I feel the Valby is a perfect match for my tractor, especially once I get my beefed up hydraulic top link.
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